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Mitt Romney: Uninsured Can Go To Emergency Room If They Need Health Care

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WASHINGTON -- Downplaying the need for the government to ensure that every person has health insurance, Mitt Romney on Sunday suggested that emergency room care suffices as a substitute for the uninsured.

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," he said in an interview with Scott Pelley of CBS's "60 Minutes" that aired Sunday night. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."

This constitutes a dramatic reversal in position for Romney, who passed a universal health care law in Massachusetts, in part, to eliminate the costs incurred when the uninsured show up in emergency rooms for care. Indeed, in both his book and in high-profile interviews during the campaign, Romney has touted his achievement in stamping out these inefficiencies while arguing that the same thing should be done at the national level.

And while Romney refused to agree on Sunday that the government's role is to ensure that every American has health care, he has endorsed such an idea in the past.

When asked in a March 2010 interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" whether he believes in universal coverage, Romney said, "Oh, sure."

"Look, it doesn't make a lot of sense for us to have millions and millions of people who have no health insurance and yet who can go to the emergency room and get entirely free care for which they have no responsibility, particularly if they are people who have sufficient means to pay their own way," he said.

And in a 2007 interview with Glenn Beck, Romney called the fact that people without insurance were able to get "free care" in emergency rooms "a form of socialism."

"When they show up at the hospital, they get care. They get free care paid for by you and me. If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is," he said at the time. "So my plan did something quite different. It said, you know what? If people can afford to buy insurance ... or if they can pay their own way, then they either buy that insurance or pay their own way, but they no longer look to government to hand out free care. And that, in my opinion, is ultimate conservativism."

Getting rid of high numbers of inefficient emergency room visits was actually a key goal of Romney's health care reform in Massachusetts, as he noted in his book "No Apology":
After about a year of looking at data -- and not making much progress -- we had a collective epiphany of sorts, an obvious one, as important observations often are: the people in Massachusetts who didn't have health insurance were, in fact, already receiving health care. Under federal law, hospitals had to stabilize and treat people who arrived at their emergency rooms with acute conditions. And our state's hospitals were offering even more assistance than the federal government required. That meant that someone was already paying for the cost of treating people who didn't have health insurance. If we could get our hands on that money, and therefore redirect it to help the uninsured buy insurance instead and obtain treatment in the way that the vast majority of individuals did -- before acute conditions developed -- the cost of insuring everyone in the state might not be as expensive as I had feared.
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When they show up at the hospital, they get care. They get free care paid for by you and me. If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is," he said at the time. "So my plan did something quite different. It said, you know what? If people can afford to buy insurance ... or if they can pay their own way, then they either buy that insurance or pay their own way, but they no longer look to government to hand out free care. And that, in my opinion, is ultimate conservativism."

but its not free.........WTF....anyone voting for this guy is a legit retard.

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Is Romney insane? Seriously? He doesn't seem to have a consistent position on anything. His inconsistent reasoning and flip-flopping positions on health care are absolutely bizarre.
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i dont think anyone has told romrom that the hospitals have cracked down on this and will send your bills to collections.
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"Downplaying the need for the government to ensure that every person has health insurance, Mitt Romney on Sunday suggested that emergency room care suffices as a substitute for the uninsured."

What's wrong with this primise?
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Well, if you can't afford health insurance, you could just borrow the money from your parents.
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I'm 65, and I haven't seen it all, but Romney is by far the most fucked up presidential candidate in my lifetime so far.
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There's no good answer for this. Obamacare(romneycare SR) isn't good either.
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New U.S. rules for collecting from uninsured patients don't concern region's hospitals Naples Daily News Mobile

New Rules Will Ban ER Debt Collections At Charitable Hospitals - Kaiser Health News

Obama healthcare law: Who pays for the uninsured? - Los Angeles Times
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Romney's efforts to limit emergency room care in Massachusetts were largely successful. Six years after he signed health reform into law, visits to emergency rooms in Massachusetts are decreasing and the state has the highest rate of residents with health insurance.

Dr. Somava Stout, who helps oversee primary care for the Cambridge Health Alliance, told CBS in June, "You have people who before would get their diabetic care in the emergency room who instead are coming into primary care, taking care of their diabetes, not ending up hospitalized every three or every four months. I mean it's a huge difference."
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"Downplaying the need for the government to ensure that every person has health insurance, Mitt Romney on Sunday suggested that emergency room care suffices as a substitute for the uninsured."

What's wrong with this primise?
Besides the fact that visiting the emergency room can cost 10 to hundreds of times more than preventative care, the cost it pushed onto the middle class and the care itself is substandard as studies prove, nothing.

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Is Romney insane? Seriously? He doesn't seem to have a consistent position on anything. His inconsistent reasoning and flip-flopping positions on health care are absolutely bizarre.
Why did they need it when he was governor of Mass. , but the rest of the country does not?
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I'm 65, and I haven't seen it all, but Romney is by far the most fucked up presidential candidate in my lifetime so far.
I am 61, and would have to agree with you.
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