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Old 09-10-2012, 11:11 AM
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btw, it's not a meeting, it's a memo. There is nothing to "attend."
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:13 AM
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btw, it's not a meeting, it's a memo. There is nothing to "attend."
This is incorrect. The daily brief is a meeting between an intelligence officer and the President with the principal National Security Council members.

These are the meetings the President has been skipping.

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The President's Daily Brief[1] (PDB), sometimes referred to as the President's Daily Briefing or the President's Daily Bulletin, is a top-secret document produced each morning for the President of the United States.

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So he's soooooo smart that he doesn't need SMEs to brief him on their intel bullets?

I've seen Generals and Admirals with more experience than him that want the SME to explain their information and what it could mean.

btw, it's not a meeting, it's a memo. There is nothing to "attend."
This is incorrect. The daily brief is a meeting between an intelligence officer and the President with the principal National Security Council members.

These are the meetings the President has been skipping.

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The President's Daily Brief[1] (PDB), sometimes referred to as the President's Daily Briefing or the President's Daily Bulletin, is a top-secret document produced each morning for the President of the United States.

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Old 09-10-2012, 11:17 AM
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Secretary Clinton, Secretary of State, probably knows more people than Obama. Vice President Biden probably knows more people than Secretary Clinton. Las Vegas Hotel Managers, or others, probably know more about Prince Harry than does Vice President Biden. Even Michele likely knows about International Leaders, and Intel!

Maybe they just email the stuff, or put it out Youtube.

They are probably not found on Fantacize-Along-With-Fox-TV-News, where ratings matter. If the President is not watching, then who else could be watching?

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Speaking of "intelligence" did you see obama applauding HIS OWN speech?
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Why is Obama skipping more than half of his daily intelligence meetings?

Is he off somewhere cutting brush a month at a time?
IS HIS GOLF CART GEARED UP LIKE GWs RANCH?
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btw, it's not a meeting, it's a memo. There is nothing to "attend."
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ravi is correct on this occasion...
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I get what you're saying, but Bush had a meeting six days a week and then scheduled additional meetings for more in-depth analysis. Frankly, I don't think simply reading the memo is good enough as it's not interactive. And the fact that Obama is running around telling people that he's got all this national security experience rings hollow in the face of such an obvious lack of intellectual curiosity on what should be his number one priority.


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According to former officials who have detailed knowledge of the PDB process, having the daily meeting — and not just reading the briefing book — is enormously important both for the president and those who prepare the brief. For the president, the meeting is an opportunity to ask questions of the briefers, probe assumptions and request additional information. For those preparing the brief, meeting with the president on a daily basis gives them vital, direct feedback from the commander in chief about what is on his mind, how they can be more responsive to his needs, and what information he may have to feed back into the intelligence process. This process cannot be replicated on paper.

While the Bush records are not yet available electronically for analysis, officials tell me the former president held his intelligence meeting six days a week, no exceptions — usually with the vice president, the White House chief of staff, the national security adviser, the director of National Intelligence, or their deputies, and CIA briefers in attendance. Once a week, he held an expanded Homeland Security briefing that included the Homeland Security adviser, the FBI director and other homeland security officials. Bush also did more than 100 hour-long “deep dives” in which he invited intelligence analysts into the Oval Office to get their unvarnished and sometimes differing views. Such meetings deepened the president’s understanding of the issues and helped analysts better understand the problems with which he was wrestling.

cont.... Why is Obama skipping more than half of his daily intelligence meetings? - The Washington Post
The above article also links to another which further discusses the importance of the daily briefing and some history regarding how previous presidents handled it.
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btw, it's not a meeting, it's a memo. There is nothing to "attend."
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I get what you're saying, but Bush had a meeting six days a week and then scheduled additional meetings for more in-depth analysis. Frankly, I don't think simply reading the memo is good enough as it's not interactive. And the fact that Obama is running around telling people that he's got all this national security experience rings hollow in the face of such an obvious lack of intellectual curiosity on what should be his number one priority.


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According to former officials who have detailed knowledge of the PDB process, having the daily meeting — and not just reading the briefing book — is enormously important both for the president and those who prepare the brief. For the president, the meeting is an opportunity to ask questions of the briefers, probe assumptions and request additional information. For those preparing the brief, meeting with the president on a daily basis gives them vital, direct feedback from the commander in chief about what is on his mind, how they can be more responsive to his needs, and what information he may have to feed back into the intelligence process. This process cannot be replicated on paper.

While the Bush records are not yet available electronically for analysis, officials tell me the former president held his intelligence meeting six days a week, no exceptions — usually with the vice president, the White House chief of staff, the national security adviser, the director of National Intelligence, or their deputies, and CIA briefers in attendance. Once a week, he held an expanded Homeland Security briefing that included the Homeland Security adviser, the FBI director and other homeland security officials. Bush also did more than 100 hour-long “deep dives” in which he invited intelligence analysts into the Oval Office to get their unvarnished and sometimes differing views. Such meetings deepened the president’s understanding of the issues and helped analysts better understand the problems with which he was wrestling.

cont.... Why is Obama skipping more than half of his daily intelligence meetings? - The Washington Post
The above article also links to another which further discusses the importance of the daily briefing and some history regarding how previous presidents handled it.
The guy in the article makes up his "facts," that has already been established.

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obama skips intelligence briefings because when he's told they are intelligence briefings, he hears the word intelligence and think it doesn't apply to him.
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What on Earth would Obama take away from an intelligence meeting?
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