New Law: Virginia will not cooperate with NDAA detention

New Law: Virginia will not cooperate with NDAA detention – Tenth Amendment Center

Hopefully more states follow suit.

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Anti-Imperialist ⋅ Individualist ⋅ Libertarian ⋅ Voluntaryist

Kudos to Virginia!

I wonder how far the Fed will go to force compliance if it comes down to it.

One of the most encouraging fights happening in the Republican Party right now is the GOP-controlled House's efforts to strip President Barack Obama's National Defense Authorization Act of its indefinite detention provision.
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The House Republicans who are now challenging the NDAA and indefinite detention represent a conservative movement that is rediscovering its traditionally conservative constitutional fidelity. This is the conservatism of Sen. Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan, not the right-wing authoritarianism of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney that was mistaken for conservatism from 2001 to 2008.

And it is the Left that now becomes the most authoritarian. Once a critic of our foreign policy and highly questionable "national security" measures, Obama has signed into law an act so unconstitutional it makes Bush and Cheney look like ACLU lawyers. When signing the NDAA, Obama declared, "My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens." So in other words, while Obama concedes that the NDAA does indeed give him the power to lock up citizens without trial indefinitely, we can trust him not to do it. I don't trust him. I know few liberals who would have trusted Bush or Cheney with such powers either.

There are a good many liberals who oppose the NDAA and this Democratic president's most recent violence against the Constitution. I applaud them. I also applaud the House GOP members who oppose NDAA for acting like conservative Republicans.

House Republicans return to valuing civil liberties | Jack Hunter | Charleston City Paper

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"You can take from A and give to B if B pays more taxes?"
~Justice Antonin Scalia on Kelo v. New London

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: The stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission – which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." ~Ayn Rand

“Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism”~Lenin

A return after voting for it in huge numbers.



Interested in any bridges? How about water front property?

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TERRORIZE your State democrats

Suggest a spending cut.

It's a good step in the right direction.

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Learn to labour and to wait -- Longfellow

Pres. Obama knows what's best for America and it's people.

Why can't people just allow him to rule over us unfettered by the Constitution and other such nuisances?

better late than never....are there any Democrat governors leading their states in protest of this.....?

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"You can take from A and give to B if B pays more taxes?"
~Justice Antonin Scalia on Kelo v. New London

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: The stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission – which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." ~Ayn Rand

“Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism”~Lenin

That's odd.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll932.xml

(from the linked Washington Times article)

The indefinite detention provision denies suspected terrorists, including U.S. citizens seized within the nation’s borders, the right to trial and subjects them to the possibility they would be held indefinitely. It reaffirms the post-Sept. 11 authorization for the use of military force that allows indefinite detention of enemy combatants. In hopes of quelling the furor, lawmakers added language that said nothing in the law may be “construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.”


When Obama signed the bill on Dec. 31, he issued a statement saying he had serious reservations about provisions on the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists. Such signing statements are common and allow presidents to raise constitutional objections to circumvent Congress' intent.


“My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens,” Obama said in the signing statement. “Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation.”




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So ... it was a-ok when a Republican had these powers, but not so much when a Democratic president is in office. Gotcha.

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"I stand by what I said, whatever it was." -- Mitt Romney, 5/17/12

By the way, I'm glad my legislature and governor finally did something right.

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"I stand by what I said, whatever it was." -- Mitt Romney, 5/17/12

190 - 43 (8 didn't vote)

see my link above

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"I stand by what I said, whatever it was." -- Mitt Romney, 5/17/12

When did a Republican president authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens? Oh, they didn't? Gotcha.

You can shut up now.

I love the Commonwealth.

Really.

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"It was fucking corrupt. Embarrassing some of the stuff I learned about. I failed to lead and should have been more involved" .... a bus driver

This has been seen time and again.

Rally the troops, express outrage. Pass something meaningless.

6 months from now...NDAA who?

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TERRORIZE your State democrats

Suggest a spending cut.

Virginia really does have a great history of exercising its sovereignty, when appropriate. Anyone recall the straw purchases of firearms in Virginia by NY agents?

Love it.

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"It was fucking corrupt. Embarrassing some of the stuff I learned about. I failed to lead and should have been more involved" .... a bus driver

it is not a-ok.....there are dummies on both sides of the aisles....who wreak havoc on our Constitution step by stupid step....

but this NDAA goes way overboard.....locking up US citizens without trial...

Why is it so many (not all) of the former Democrats....who so loudly opposed Bush and the Patriot Act.....why are they are being so silent now....?

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"You can take from A and give to B if B pays more taxes?"
~Justice Antonin Scalia on Kelo v. New London

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: The stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission – which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." ~Ayn Rand

“Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism”~Lenin