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I'm not 'in love' with him... but I do support due process. Clearly, you do not. That's fine. You're welcome to your opinion, however asinine it is.

The 911 tape (the unedited one, not the NBC one) is very clear... and the fact is that the words the operator spoke were "we do not need you to do that". That's not 'telling' him not to, it is advising him that he need not do it.
You're splitting hairs. He was told not to follow, he followed anyway. Trayvon confronted him (which, sorry, any kid might if threatened by a total stranger who followed him in a vehicle and then on foot).

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After that, we have no real evidence....
You mean other than a dead kid with a hole blown in him?



Not really. Some of the eyewitnesses said that Zimmerman was killing that kid, and we can hear Trayvon screaming for help on the tape...

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We further know that Zimmerman sustained injuries. Because we have police statements supporting that.
Yet, oddly invisible to a tape he appeared in less than an hour later.

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Since you are on record as stating that you "want him in prison, regardless"... I figure you lost whatever credibility you may have had.
Damn straight. He killed someone. Last time I checked, that was against the law.
Oh lord... do you suffer from Tourettes or something?

There is no evidence that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after the dispatcher advised him that there was no need to do that.

We have a dead teenager... and a live man with injuries consistent with having been in an physical altercation. According to police reports: injury to face, injury to back of head, and the back of his jacket was wet and grass stained. We have witnesses placing Martin on top of Zimmerman. That's likely to support a 'self defense' claim.... self defense is not 'murder'.

The 'screaming' is disputable.... Zimmerman claims, and witnesses back him up, that he was calling for help. Others claim it was Martin... I'm not one to 'guess' about facts but... if I were... I'd probably say that both of them shouted at some point. So, I'll wait for some kind of official information on that... but, again, that is because I tend to favor official information, and fact over hysterical babbling. I leave the hysterical babbling to twits like you.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
Or... dead thug, live victim. Depends on the actual facts of the situation... not that facts get in your way.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
Or... dead thug, live victim. Depends on the actual facts of the situation... not that facts get in your way.
17 year old kid vs. ex-bouncer, guy with gun, and all around thug.

Ummmm, nope.

Your boy is going to jail. Learn to deal.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
Or... dead thug, live victim. Depends on the actual facts of the situation... not that facts get in your way.
17 year old kid vs. ex-bouncer, guy with gun, and all around thug.

Ummmm, nope.

Your boy is going to jail. Learn to deal.
If that is the outcome of a fair and rational trial, I'm fine with it. That is the difference between you and I.... I'm smart enough to recognize that I can't call guilt or innocence on the information to hand... you don't give a shit about guilt or innocence because you are driven by emotion and stupidity.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
You forgot to add that you're a moron.
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Or... dead thug, live victim. Depends on the actual facts of the situation... not that facts get in your way.
17 year old kid vs. ex-bouncer, guy with gun, and all around thug.

Ummmm, nope.

Your boy is going to jail. Learn to deal.
If that is the outcome of a fair and rational trial, I'm fine with it. That is the difference between you and I.... I'm smart enough to recognize that I can't call guilt or innocence on the information to hand... you don't give a shit about guilt or innocence because you are driven by emotion and stupidity.
You work on the assumption that trials are a holy process, that is better than sensible people looking at the evidence...

It usually just turns out to be a contest of who has better lawyers. I thought OJ was guiltuy of murder and Michael Jackson really did molest that kid. The fact 12 knobs too stupid to get out of jury duty were fooled by slick lawyers didn't change that opinion.

What I see is a fat, mean wannabe with impulse control problems going around his neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble, and he came across this kid. If he hadn't been out looking for trouble, if he had stood down when told to, this kid would be alive today.

He needs to spend a lot of time in prison. Sorry, he just does.
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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
You forgot to add that you're a moron.
and you're a racist... but learn to deal.
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17 year old kid vs. ex-bouncer, guy with gun, and all around thug.

Ummmm, nope.

Your boy is going to jail. Learn to deal.
If that is the outcome of a fair and rational trial, I'm fine with it. That is the difference between you and I.... I'm smart enough to recognize that I can't call guilt or innocence on the information to hand... you don't give a shit about guilt or innocence because you are driven by emotion and stupidity.
You work on the assumption that trials are a holy process, that is better than sensible people looking at the evidence...

It usually just turns out to be a contest of who has better lawyers. I thought OJ was guiltuy of murder and Michael Jackson really did molest that kid. The fact 12 knobs too stupid to get out of jury duty were fooled by slick lawyers didn't change that opinion.

What I see is a fat, mean wannabe with impulse control problems going around his neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble, and he came across this kid. If he hadn't been out looking for trouble, if he had stood down when told to, this kid would be alive today.

He needs to spend a lot of time in prison. Sorry, he just does.
What I see is that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand a quite straight forward process. One waits for ALL the evidence before determining guilt or innocence. You seem to prefer to stick to discredited media reports to judge. I hope you never serve on a jury.
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If that is the outcome of a fair and rational trial, I'm fine with it. That is the difference between you and I.... I'm smart enough to recognize that I can't call guilt or innocence on the information to hand... you don't give a shit about guilt or innocence because you are driven by emotion and stupidity.
You work on the assumption that trials are a holy process, that is better than sensible people looking at the evidence...

It usually just turns out to be a contest of who has better lawyers. I thought OJ was guiltuy of murder and Michael Jackson really did molest that kid. The fact 12 knobs too stupid to get out of jury duty were fooled by slick lawyers didn't change that opinion.

What I see is a fat, mean wannabe with impulse control problems going around his neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble, and he came across this kid. If he hadn't been out looking for trouble, if he had stood down when told to, this kid would be alive today.

He needs to spend a lot of time in prison. Sorry, he just does.
What I see is that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand a quite straight forward process. One waits for ALL the evidence before determining guilt or innocence. You seem to prefer to stick to discredited media reports to judge. I hope you never serve on a jury.
Only discredited in your mind...

I'm just not sure why you are so invested in this guy. The world would be a better place with him in prison than outside of it.

And to be totally cold and calculating, if something isn't done, we are going to have race riots.
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"NBC continues to characterize its deceptive edit of George Zimmerman’s 911 call a “mistake.” The edited version, in which George Zimmerman says Trayvon Martin “looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black” appeared on the Today show and on NBC’s web properties. That edit put racial concerns front and center in a story that may not have been about race at all. But could the edit really be a mistake?

Is it possible for such an internal edit that substantially alters the nature of Zimmerman’s call with the 911 dispatcher to happen by chance? As an audio and video editor for going on 20 years, in my opinion it is highly implausible and close to impossible for that edit to have occurred by chance. Watch this video and you’ll see why."

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Dead kid. Live thug. Not much more to say, really.
You forgot to add that you're a moron.
and you're a racist... but learn to deal.
What have I ever said that is in the slightest bit racist?

You prove with every post that you are eager to jump to stereotypical conclusions without the slightest bit of evidence.

That makes you a low grade moron.
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"NBC continues to characterize its deceptive edit of George Zimmerman’s 911 call a “mistake.” The edited version, in which George Zimmerman says Trayvon Martin “looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black” appeared on the Today show and on NBC’s web properties. That edit put racial concerns front and center in a story that may not have been about race at all. But could the edit really be a mistake?

Is it possible for such an internal edit that substantially alters the nature of Zimmerman’s call with the 911 dispatcher to happen by chance? As an audio and video editor for going on 20 years, in my opinion it is highly implausible and close to impossible for that edit to have occurred by chance. Watch this video and you’ll see why."

The PJ Tatler » PJTV Exclusive: How NBC Editors Made the Zimmerman 911 Call Sound Racist
No. Anybody who knows anything about how media and news stories get out there knows that the edit was no mistake. It was intentional, deliberate, and for specific purposes. And it worked too. JobB here, for instance, is STILL quoting the edited versions that got out there, and of course that was why they did it. And now they can say, "Oops, mistake" and that is supposed to absolve them of any responsibility. The race baiters will use the ammunition they were given and don't give a sh*t whether it is right or wrong. It fits the politically correct version and that's all they need.

At least CNN along with Fox News and maybe one or two other mainstream sources are doing their damndest to get it right. Honorable people should want them to get it right instead of perpetuating a lie they desperate want to be true. The race baiters don't care whether Zimmerman is gulty or innocent or whether it is just or unjust that he and his family now live in fear for their very lives. They want him guilty. Therefore he is.
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