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Old 01-30-2012, 06:18 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
I think that Obama has done most of the direct damage he could do to the country.

The worst thing I can think that he would be able to do in the next four years would be appoint more supreme court justices.

Of course he might be able to manage more damage if his reelection is taken as a progressive mandate but I don't think it will be - and I trust that our GOP representatives would continue their efforts to rein him in, in accordance with the will of their constituents.

There is still the possible problem of other countries perceiving us as weak militarily.

But mostly it's the supreme court I worry about.
I don't for the following reasons. First, what we've seen is that the conservative justices wait for a Republican to name their replacement, and the liberal justices wait for a Democrat. Now this might be an issue if Hillary replaces Obama in 2016, and if the GOP keeps going the way it's going, that's a real possibility, because these guys aren't immortal.

I'd be more worried about Romney appointing replacements for Scalia and Thomas because he'd be more likely to appoint a moderate like Kennedy who is only conservative some of the time.

I also don't worry that much about an Obama second term because, historically, none of these guys have good second terms. Second terms is when it usually falls apart. To recap for those who came in late-

Bush had Katrina, lost congress, and the war went south on him.
Clinton had Monica and all the other petty scandals.
Reagan had Iran Contra
Nixon had Watergate. and "-gate" became a suffix for scandal.
LBJ had Vietnam.
Truman had Korean and McCarthyism.

I think the only guy who had an okay second term was Ike.

THird, my biggest problem with potential Romney presidency is that the man is really at his heart a liberal. So things that the GOP congress would oppose if Obama had a second term they might go along with in a Romney first term.
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I think that Obama has done most of the direct damage he could do to the country.

The worst thing I can think that he would be able to do in the next four years would be appoint more supreme court justices.

Of course he might be able to manage more damage if his reelection is taken as a progressive mandate but I don't think it will be - and I trust that our GOP representatives would continue their efforts to rein him in, in accordance with the will of their constituents.

There is still the possible problem of other countries perceiving us as weak militarily.

But mostly it's the supreme court I worry about.
I don't for the following reasons. First, what we've seen is that the conservative justices wait for a Republican to name their replacement, and the liberal justices wait for a Democrat. Now this might be an issue if Hillary replaces Obama in 2016, and if the GOP keeps going the way it's going, that's a real possibility, because these guys aren't immortal.

I'd be more worried about Romney appointing replacements for Scalia and Thomas because he'd be more likely to appoint a moderate like Kennedy who is only conservative some of the time.

I also don't worry that much about an Obama second term because, historically, none of these guys have good second terms. Second terms is when it usually falls apart. To recap for those who came in late-

Bush had Katrina, lost congress, and the war went south on him.
Clinton had Monica and all the other petty scandals.
Reagan had Iran Contra
Nixon had Watergate. and "-gate" became a suffix for scandal.
LBJ had Vietnam.
Truman had Korean and McCarthyism.

I think the only guy who had an okay second term was Ike.

THird, my biggest problem with potential Romney presidency is that the man is really at his heart a liberal. So things that the GOP congress would oppose if Obama had a second term they might go along with in a Romney first term.
I thought Obama said if he didn't "fix" things in his first term, he wouldn't run a 2nd??
I think he found that he wasn't going to be able to accomplish everything he wanted in 1 term....and he has to run for a 2nd to be able to completely ruin our country.

What i'm worried about, if he get's re-elected, he knows he can't run again...and it won't matter what he does because he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected again. I think the next 4 years will be a complete disaster if he's still president. All i can hope for is that Congress remains Republican and they can keep him reigned in and stop him from completely destroying us.
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THE worst thing about reelecting Obama


That there wasn't a better choice?... Like last time?

Looks like we all were late at the fruit stand....again...

It's all been picked over... Shit!
From an apolitical point of view, I think you're probably right. The Presidents we are left with are often the lesser of two evils which would be fine if they didn't have to be so calculating in practice.

These days, Presidents and other governmental leaders don't introduce something unless they are sure they can get it passed. There is nothing about changing minds, dragging the kicking screaming opposition (and some supporters) across the finish line.

So the result is timidity and wide-spread dissatisfaction.
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Bullshit.

I'm pretty sure that sums it up nicely.



She has a cute kitten however.
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Even if Obama doesn't win the election, we still have those nit wits in the senate that will cause the same problems. We need to get those people out of the senate somehow too. We're in the same situations if we don't because the senate will continue to make our getting back on the right track impossible.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
I think that Obama has done most of the direct damage he could do to the country.

The worst thing I can think that he would be able to do in the next four years would be appoint more supreme court justices.

Of course he might be able to manage more damage if his reelection is taken as a progressive mandate but I don't think it will be - and I trust that our GOP representatives would continue their efforts to rein him in, in accordance with the will of their constituents.

There is still the possible problem of other countries perceiving us as weak militarily.

But mostly it's the supreme court I worry about.
I'll bet your asshole is sooooo tight, you probably squeak when you walk.
um, the weak military argument doesn't work anymore in a all volunteer military force...
now if you want to reinstate the draft, we'll go all over the planet and be the world's police force, like you want it to be. shit, we'll even bomb Iran for you.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
I think that Obama has done most of the direct damage he could do to the country.

The worst thing I can think that he would be able to do in the next four years would be appoint more supreme court justices.

Of course he might be able to manage more damage if his reelection is taken as a progressive mandate but I don't think it will be - and I trust that our GOP representatives would continue their efforts to rein him in, in accordance with the will of their constituents.

There is still the possible problem of other countries perceiving us as weak militarily.

But mostly it's the supreme court I worry about.
It may possibly take 4 more years for us to hit rock bottom and to realize that the gravy train has jumped off the tracks.
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Did I mention that in 3 years, Obama has surpassed the number of jobs Bush created in 8 years? Good luck in November.
Obama creates government jobs. Those don't count. We need private sector jobs.
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I think I get it.







See? In the Republican World of Bizarro ideology, a good president is a bad one and Bush, a bad president, was a "good" president. Killing thousands of Americans and maiming tens of thousands of Americans to bring down a dictator that never attacked us is a "good thing" and is the "way things should be done". But stopping a dictator who has American blood on his hands from killing his own people without the loss of a single American life is a "bad thing" and proves we are "weak". See?
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Well, rdean's familiarity with comic books might explain his reading comprehension.




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I got news for you, Obama could easily end up sitting on the supreme court one day.
That would be a bigger mistake then electing him potus, but idiots will support the fool for that also.
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Did I mention that in 3 years, Obama has surpassed the number of jobs Bush created in 8 years? Good luck in November.
Obama creates government jobs. Those don't count. We need private sector jobs.
So, Obama created over 3 million gov't jobs? Got a link for that?

BTW, gov't workers do earn money, which they spend on goods and services, just like any other consumer. You do realize that, right?
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My point is that righties don't seem to be able to separate the REAL Obama from their FICTIONAL Obama.
And my point is that you think the fictional Obama IS real... How fucking clueless is that?

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