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| Quote: Things are about to get ugly people. You Obama supporters just say one thing against this country and you to might be detained!!! Wonder how you will feel about him if you or one of your family members gets in trouble for free speech! Those provisions were removed from the bill: Quote: Among the changes the administration secured was striking a provision that would have eliminated executive branch authority to use civilian courts for trying terrorism cases against foreign nationals. The administration also pushed Congress to change a provision that would have denied U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism the right to trial and could have subjected them to indefinite detention. Lawmakers eventually dropped the military custody requirement for U.S. citizens or lawful U.S. residents. News from The Associated Press Quote: Section 1021 affirms the executive branch’s authority to detain persons covered by the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note). This section breaks no new ground and is unnecessary. The authority it describes was included in the 2001 AUMF, as recognized by the Supreme Court and confirmed through lower court decisions since then. Two critical limitations in section 1021 confirm that it solely codifies established authorities. First, under section 1021(d), the bill does not “limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.” Second, under section 1021(e), the bill may not be construed to affect any “existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.” My Administration strongly supported the inclusion of these limitations in order to make clear beyond doubt that the legislation does nothing more than confirm authorities that the Federal courts have recognized as lawful under the 2001 AUMF. Moreover, I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law. BREAKING: Obama Signs Defense Authorization Bill | ThinkProgress How Congress is Signing its own Arrest Warrants in the NDAA Citizen Arrest bill | Naomi Wolf Jonathan Turley: The NDAA's Historic Assault on American Liberty - Democratic Underground
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| I think this, along with SOPA, is a direct response to the revolutionary fervor that has taken hold starting with the Arab Spring, and culminating in OWS. With OWS, corrupt politicians, lobbyists, corporations, realize that the people are onto the core problem: private money in Washington, and those who have been profiting want to squash it. With SOPA and NDAA, it is more than ever possible to silence dissenting opinions against this establishment. It is a shame this has been allowed through, and I fear the worst for dissenters here on out. |
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| And dem or Rep, anyone who didn't try to remove that bit, should be deeply ashamed. I'm hoping for ritualistic suicide. Maybe lock themselves in a bus and light it on fire. |
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| And dem or Rep, anyone who didn't try to remove that bit, should be deeply ashamed. I'm hoping for ritualistic suicide. Maybe lock themselves in a bus and light it on fire. I'm waiting to see if Obama tries to get that portion ruled unconstitutional or uses the new powers. I'm not getting my hopes up. I make no excuses for the Congress Dems who didn't try to stop that bit of the bill, and neither should anyone else. |
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| Many of the lefty partisans on here are laying ALL of this on the GOP. They are also giving Obama a hall pass even though without his signature, this never happens. I'm waiting to see if Obama tries to get that portion ruled unconstitutional or uses the new powers. I'm not getting my hopes up. I make no excuses for the Congress Dems who didn't try to stop that bit of the bill, and neither should anyone else. |
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| I'm so sick of you damn idiots complaining about this stuff! So please just STFU! Big Brother loves you so fucking much that he has to take your rights to protect your rights. Why can't you assholes understand that? It's for your own fucking good damn it! You should actually drop to your knees and kiss Big Brother's feet for helping you this way. So just STFU or i'm tellin! I mean it. |
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| I'm waiting to see if Obama tries to get that portion ruled unconstitutional or uses the new powers. I'm not getting my hopes up. I make no excuses for the Congress Dems who didn't try to stop that bit of the bill, and neither should anyone else. |
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| The NDAA laid out the budget for the military for the year so if Obama vetoed it then the military would have no budget while Congress tried to revise it. It would be political suicide. I'm waiting to see if Obama tries to get that portion ruled unconstitutional or uses the new powers. I'm not getting my hopes up. I make no excuses for the Congress Dems who didn't try to stop that bit of the bill, and neither should anyone else. A new law, however, is fully within the prerogative of Congress and the President. It can be challenged as unconstitutional which is determined by the courts, but given the fairly large majority of both houses in Congress who passed it, I doubt that it will be overturned on Constitutional grounds. |
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| Fuckin losers! Don't even know how much Big Brother fucking loves them. If he didn't love them so much,he wouldn't be taking their rights to protect their rights. But he is taking their rights. That's how much he fucking loves them. But all they can do is bitch & complain. They should be kissing Big Brother's ass. I can't fucking wait till this NDAA gets rid of these people. I'm so sick of their complaining. |
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| A new law, however, is fully within the prerogative of Congress and the President. It can be challenged as unconstitutional which is determined by the courts, but given the fairly large majority of both houses in Congress who passed it, I doubt that it will be overturned on Constitutional grounds. |
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| But he can't do that. The Bill of Rights are Constitutional amendments that cannot be rescinded by anything short of Constitutional amendments rescinding each one passed by super majorities of both houses of Congress and ratified by the various states. A new law, however, is fully within the prerogative of Congress and the President. It can be challenged as unconstitutional which is determined by the courts, but given the fairly large majority of both houses in Congress who passed it, I doubt that it will be overturned on Constitutional grounds. Show how this... Quote: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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| Things are about to get ugly people. You Obama supporters just say one thing against this country and you to might be detained!!! Wonder how you will feel about him if you or one of your family members gets in trouble for free speech! BREAKING: Obama Signs Homeland Battlefield Bill Into Law
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| Show how this... Quote: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. B... ohhhhhh an internet threat. I'm so totally scared
__________________ My one and only post here ever again... breaking my own rule... but just HAD to post this... John Doe Investigation Over - www.nbc26.com John Doe Investigation Over Quote: The John Doe investigation into former aides of Governor Scott Walker is over. The Milwaukee County District Attorney says the governor will not face any charges. But the three year investigation did lead to charges against six people. Governor Walker has been vindicated. Something he has been saying from the very beginning. A dark cloud hanging over his head is now gone. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() :mm : |
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