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Ask Nancy, and many other Libs. Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks are the single best way to create Jobs and stimulate the Economy.
With regard to aid to the unemployed, they were citing a document prepared for Congress by the CBO at the beginning of 2010 called "Policies for Increasing Economic Growth and Employment in 2010 and 2011."

Cumulative Effects of Policy Options on Employment in 2010 and 2011,
Range of Low to High Estimates

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It is different in the fact that if the people around there did not get govt paid for food stamps he would have much less sales.
He is getting govt money second handed.

Unlilke tax breaks for the ritch money given to the poor rolls right back in the the pockets of business, creating profits and jobs.
Nobody denies that, But to claim it is the best way to stimulate the Economy is Pure horse shit. At best it sustains it, It's never going to create Growth.
Who said it was the "best" way?
Nancy Pelosi.

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“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.
She makes the baseless and Insane claim that every dollar spent on them Comes back as 1.79 Dollars in GDP Growth.

Of course anyone with a brain knows that is horse shit, and if she were right we could spend 10 Trillion dollars and get 17.9 Trillion in GDP growth. Why would we ever stop spending lol. Pay everyone not to work, and give them all food stamps and the economy will boom.
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Ask Nancy, and many other Libs. Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks are the single best way to create Jobs and stimulate the Economy.
With regard to aid to the unemployed, they were citing a document prepared for Congress by the CBO at the beginning of 2010 called "Policies for Increasing Economic Growth and Employment in 2010 and 2011."

Cumulative Effects of Policy Options on Employment in 2010 and 2011,
Range of Low to High Estimates

I don't care who she sited, Claiming it is the best way to stimulate the economy and create Jobs is pure Horse shit. It is a good way to keep people from Starving, or losing their homes and stuff, But there are many other ways of stimulating Job growth that work far better than Unemployment Checks.

How can you even argue with the cold hard fact that over 90% of people on unemployment find work with in 6 weeks of running out of Benefits. How can you say that is does not encourage people to not look for work until the last min when confronted with those numbers, and if you acknowledge that, How can you possibly think Unemployment is an effective way to create Jobs.
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Nobody denies that, But to claim it is the best way to stimulate the Economy is Pure horse shit. At best it sustains it, It's never going to create Growth.
Who said it was the "best" way?
Nancy Pelosi.

On Many occasions

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“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.
She makes the baseless and Insane claim that every dollar spent on them Comes back as 1.79 Dollars in GDP Growth.

Of course anyone with a brain knows that is horse shit, and if she were right we could spend 10 Trillion dollars and get 17.9 Trillion in GDP growth. Why would we ever stop spending lol. Pay everyone not to work, and give them all food stamps and the economy will boom.
And again..you guys are something else.

I ask for a simple task..and you can't even do it.

When the FUCK did she say it was the BEST way to do stimulus.

Is that to fucking hard for you to do?


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I don't care who she sited, Claiming it is the best way to stimulate the economy and create Jobs is pure Horse shit.
Thoughtful analysis. If you've got a crayon handy, you should scrawl down your thoughts and send them over to the economists at the CBO. They could use that kind of fresh perspective.
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Nobody denies that, But to claim it is the best way to stimulate the Economy is Pure horse shit. At best it sustains it, It's never going to create Growth.
Who said it was the "best" way?
Nancy Pelosi.

On Many occasions

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“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.
She makes the baseless and Insane claim that every dollar spent on them Comes back as 1.79 Dollars in GDP Growth.

Of course anyone with a brain knows that is horse shit, and if she were right we could spend 10 Trillion dollars and get 17.9 Trillion in GDP growth. Why would we ever stop spending lol. Pay everyone not to work, and give them all food stamps and the economy will boom.
The stat that truly makes return on dollars spent bogus is the horrendous amount of fraud that occurs in SNAP (Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program). Every state has staggering amounts of fraud (that's just what they actually catch)- Also SNAP funding to Puerto Rico, American Samoa, and the Northern Marianas amounts to 0 dollars spent here.

It would be better to have welfare workers distributing food to the needy instead of food stamp cards. If you have a need get in a food distribution line. Currently almost every community have food banks. Lets use the money for SNAP to stock them with food- at least we could be better assured of actual food going to the truly needy.
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Ask Nancy, and many other Libs. Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks are the single best way to create Jobs and stimulate the Economy.
Wow, that's what they said? Really? You're being a hundred percent truthful? Sure you are.
Did you listen to what she said? What part was wrong?
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Wow, that's what they said? Really? You're being a hundred percent truthful? Sure you are.
Did you listen to what she said? What part was wrong?
Pelosi is completely correct.

But she never ever said that it was the best way to do stimulus...in this video.
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Ask Nancy, and many other Libs. Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks are the single best way to create Jobs and stimulate the Economy.
With regard to aid to the unemployed, they were citing a document prepared for Congress by the CBO at the beginning of 2010 called "Policies for Increasing Economic Growth and Employment in 2010 and 2011."
Moody's also came up with similar findings during that time for a one year Fiscal Bang for the Buck: One-year $ change in real GDP per $ reduction in federal tax revenue or increase in spending

Tax Cuts
Nonrefundable Lump-Sum Tax Rebate 1.02
Refundable Lump-Sum Tax Rebate 1.26

Temporary Tax Cuts
Payroll Tax Holiday 1.29
Across the Board Tax Cut 1.03
Accelerated Depreciation 0.27

Permanent Tax Cuts
Extend Alternative Minimum Tax Patch 0.48
Make Bush Income Tax Cuts Permanent 0.29
Make Dividend and Capital Gains Tax Cuts Permanent 0.37
Cut Corporate Tax Rate 0.30

Spending Increases
Extend Unemployment Insurance Benefits 1.64
Temporarily Increase Food Stamps 1.73
Issue General Aid to State Governments 1.36
Increase Infrastructure Spending 1.59
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Who said it was the "best" way?
Nancy Pelosi.

On Many occasions

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“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.
She makes the baseless and Insane claim that every dollar spent on them Comes back as 1.79 Dollars in GDP Growth.

Of course anyone with a brain knows that is horse shit, and if she were right we could spend 10 Trillion dollars and get 17.9 Trillion in GDP growth. Why would we ever stop spending lol. Pay everyone not to work, and give them all food stamps and the economy will boom.
The stat that truly makes return on dollars spent bogus is the horrendous amount of fraud that occurs in SNAP (Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program). Every state has staggering amounts of fraud (that's just what they actually catch)- Also SNAP funding to Puerto Rico, American Samoa, and the Northern Marianas amounts to 0 dollars spent here.

It would be better to have welfare workers distributing food to the needy instead of food stamp cards. If you have a need get in a food distribution line. Currently almost every community have food banks. Lets use the money for SNAP to stock them with food- at least we could be better assured of actual food going to the truly needy.
HMM a question.
Do our colony's err protectorates profits add into our GDP or anything?
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according to nancy.... food stamps and welfare is the best stimulus there is.
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Greenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religionGreenbeard could successfully start his own religion
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Temporarily Increase Food Stamps 1.73
That's pretty close to what that 2002 ERS paper found for the economic effect of food stamps in a recession (if they're financed through emergency spending): they found $1.84 of economic activity generated from each additional dollar dollar spent on food stamps.
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