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He represents his his district and earmarks are hardly the problem.

However, liberals do not understand this. Heck, liberals do not even understand liberalism.
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I find it ironic that authoritarians refer to themselves as "liberal."

I'm a real liberal - they're ignorant authoritarian nuts.
Modern day liberals are statists, authoritative, and warmongering idiots. They also enact economic policies that benefit the uber rich while hurting the poor.

I really don't understand it. I don't understand why they vote against their best interest and bash people who are more liberal than them.

If you are a liberal and bash Ron Paul, then there is something fundamentally wrong with you.
Kinda like how all the welfare blacks vote to keep themselves enslaved and used as nothing more than a vote.

Then the democrat "community organizer" communists go to their projects and tell them its all the rich white republican mans fault then spew their Marxist drivel propaganda and tell them if they vote democrat they'll make everything fine..

When in reality those on welfare have no incentive to better themselves because the government sustains them by giving them free shelter, free food, free money etc.

Democrat politicians know all this and that makes them evil... Their deception is stunning. All they care about is keeping their power and if they have to financially depress a nation then sobeit.

Of course no progressive would ever question their party because they're loyal sheep and questioning the authority is wrong, not to mention those idiots are suborn closed minded clowns that only make problems worse with their loyalty to communism.

You would think any sane person would have learned something from the culls, murders and famines brought upon this world via the Marxist philosophy... I suppose one would have to be educated to acknowledge that blemish on humanity as a civilization.

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Let's not play the race card please. Yes, blacks are typically among the lower income bracket, but a simple historical analysis will shine some light on this problem.

Additionally, corporate welfare is more of a problem than individual welfare.
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Yeah...like that big old pallet of cash that was sent to Iraq...and disappeared. Like these unfunded wars were are in. Like tax loopholes that give incentives to companies to move their businesses overseas. Like faith based initiatives that give my tax dollars to organizations that want to discriminate against me. Like in subsidies to companies that make obscene profits. Quit all that!
The wars were funded. Liberal social programs are what hasn't been funded, to the tune of $14 trillion.

However, thanks for enumerating all the knee-jerk leftwing talking points, but it's not like we don't see them virtually every time some libturd posts to this forum.

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those pallets of cash were not ours, why the concern?
It's just on the list of things they used to bash the Bush administration. They'll keep regurgitating it ad nauseum for the next 50 years.
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I find it ironic that authoritarians refer to themselves as "liberal."

I'm a real liberal - they're ignorant authoritarian nuts.
You don't think they are going to use the word that accurately describes them, do you?

They certainly going to go around calling themselves fascists.

Liberalism is just one vast pile of lies and rationalizations for increasing government control over us. Why concern yourself with one more lie?
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Excuse me? That was taxpayer money that went missing. How was that "not ours" exactly?

No, it was actually cash the belonged to Iraq. The US government was holding it in trust. We delivered it to the standing government of Iraq. What they chose to do with it is none of our concern.
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Let's not play the race card please. Yes, blacks are typically among the lower income bracket, but a simple historical analysis will shine some light on this problem.

Additionally, corporate welfare is more of a problem than individual welfare.
There is no such thing as "corporate welfare."

Anyone that pays the government receives no ****ing welfare...

That concept is not that difficult to understand.

The person who receives money for doing nothing is getting welfare, the fool that pays the government money GETS NO WELFARE.

Its astounding how ****ing dumb liberals are..

If you don't understand what I just told you then you are a dumb person..

The lies liberals spew are astounding.... I don't know how an intelligent person could actually accept the notion that those who pay the government money receive welfare.

Thats just mind boggling!
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Yeah...like that big old pallet of cash that was sent to Iraq...and disappeared. Like these unfunded wars were are in. Like tax loopholes that give incentives to companies to move their businesses overseas. Like faith based initiatives that give my tax dollars to organizations that want to discriminate against me. Like in subsidies to companies that make obscene profits. Quit all that!
The wars were funded. Liberal social programs are what hasn't been funded, to the tune of $14 trillion.

However, thanks for enumerating all the knee-jerk leftwing talking points, but it's not like we don't see them virtually every time some libturd posts to this forum.
Sorry, but our current fiscal problems are the result of two unfunded wars, tax breaks and the unfunded Medicare Part D. The stimulus would not have been necessary if not for those things. I'm 100% certain that President Obama would have preferred to walk into the surplus his predecessor walked into rather than the horrific economic mess Bush left.
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There is no such thing as "corporate welfare."
I disagree and Roderick Long has done a nice write up on the issue of Corporations vs the Free Market.

Corporations tend to fear competition, because competition exerts downward pressure on prices and upward pressure on salaries; moreover, success on the market comes with no guarantee of permanency, depending as it does on outdoing other firms at correctly figuring out how best to satisfy forever-changing consumer preferences, and that kind of vulnerability to loss is no picnic. It is no surprise, then, that throughout U.S. history corporations have been overwhelmingly hostile to the free market. Indeed, most of the existing regulatory apparatus—including those regulations widely misperceived as restraints on corporate power—were vigorously supported, lobbied for, and in some cases even drafted by the corporate elite.[1]

Corporate power depends crucially on government intervention in the marketplace.[2] This is obvious enough in the case of the more overt forms of government favoritism such as subsidies, bailouts,[3] and other forms of corporate welfare; protectionist tariffs; explicit grants of monopoly privilege; and the seizing of private property for corporate use via eminent domain (as in Kelo v. New London). But these direct forms of pro-business intervention are supplemented by a swarm of indirect forms whose impact is arguably greater still.


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Essentially, large corporations are the long arm of the government. Corporatism cannot exist without statism.

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I find it ironic that authoritarians refer to themselves as "liberal."

I'm a real liberal - they're ignorant authoritarian nuts.
You don't think they are going to use the word that accurately describes them, do you?

They certainly going to go around calling themselves fascists.

Liberalism is just one vast pile of lies and rationalizations for increasing government control over us. Why concern yourself with one more lie?
I'm actually pissed that progressives call themselves liberal..

I try my best to not refer to them as liberal or individuals.

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Let's not play the race card please. Yes, blacks are typically among the lower income bracket, but a simple historical analysis will shine some light on this problem.

Additionally, corporate welfare is more of a problem than individual welfare.
There is no such thing as "corporate welfare."

Anyone that pays the government receives no ****ing welfare...

That concept is not that difficult to understand.

The person who receives money for doing nothing is getting welfare, the fool that pays the government money GETS NO WELFARE.

Its astounding how ****ing dumb liberals are..

If you don't understand what I just told you then you are a dumb person..

The lies liberals spew are astounding.... I don't know how an intelligent person could actually accept the notion that those who pay the government money receive welfare.

Thats just mind boggling!
How is it not welfare to give tax payer money to companies that are making obscene profits? What do YOU call that?
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There is no such thing as "corporate welfare."
I disagree and Roderick Long has done a nice write up on the issue of Corporations vs the Free Market.

Corporations tend to fear competition, because competition exerts downward pressure on prices and upward pressure on salaries; moreover, success on the market comes with no guarantee of permanency, depending as it does on outdoing other firms at correctly figuring out how best to satisfy forever-changing consumer preferences, and that kind of vulnerability to loss is no picnic. It is no surprise, then, that throughout U.S. history corporations have been overwhelmingly hostile to the free market. Indeed, most of the existing regulatory apparatus—including those regulations widely misperceived as restraints on corporate power—were vigorously supported, lobbied for, and in some cases even drafted by the corporate elite.[1]

Corporate power depends crucially on government intervention in the marketplace.[2] This is obvious enough in the case of the more overt forms of government favoritism such as subsidies, bailouts,[3] and other forms of corporate welfare; protectionist tariffs; explicit grants of monopoly privilege; and the seizing of private property for corporate use via eminent domain (as in Kelo v. New London). But these direct forms of pro-business intervention are supplemented by a swarm of indirect forms whose impact is arguably greater still.


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Essentially, large corporations are the long arm of the government. Corporatism cannot exist without statism.
Well you can disagree and rationalize what you want to believe all you want that still wont make your assertions correct.

Taxpayers/corporations PAY the government...

I know liberals believe this is a socialist nation, where the wealth of the nation in their minds is automatically divided by 300,000,000 and its really the evil rich republicans and their capitalism that is holding their fair share back.

This is why liberals are delusional.
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Let's not play the race card please. Yes, blacks are typically among the lower income bracket, but a simple historical analysis will shine some light on this problem.

Additionally, corporate welfare is more of a problem than individual welfare.
There is no such thing as "corporate welfare."

Anyone that pays the government receives no ****ing welfare...

That concept is not that difficult to understand.

The person who receives money for doing nothing is getting welfare, the fool that pays the government money GETS NO WELFARE.

Its astounding how ****ing dumb liberals are..

If you don't understand what I just told you then you are a dumb person..

The lies liberals spew are astounding.... I don't know how an intelligent person could actually accept the notion that those who pay the government money receive welfare.

Thats just mind boggling!
How is it not welfare to give tax payer money to companies that are making obscene profits? What do YOU call that?
If I give the government 10 dollars and they give me 2 dollars what do you call that??

So the government just got 8 dollars and you call that "welfare?"

Oh and I can clearly see you have a problem with "profits" - this is called CAPITALISM dude..

Yes, creating capital or making profits is what this model is all about. If you have a problem with that move to China and if thats not "liberal" er authoritarian enough for you move to North Korea, maybe thats your utopia.
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Well you can disagree and rationalize what you want to believe all you want that still wont make your assertions correct.

Taxpayers/corporations PAY the government...

I know liberals believe this is a socialist nation, where the wealth of the nation in their minds is automatically divided by 300,000,000 and its really the evil rich republicans and their capitalism that is holding their fair share back.

This is why liberals are delusional.
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