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| Obama Tax Trigger: Punishing TaxPayers w/ Automatic TaxHikes when Gov Overspends Quote: Responding to widespread criticism of his AWOL status on the budget fight, President Obama today unveiled a fiscal plan. It already is being criticized for its class warfare approach to tax policy, but the most disturbing feature may be a provision that punishes the American people with higher taxes if politicians overspend. Called a “debt failsafe trigger,” Obama’s scheme would automatically raise taxes if politicians spend too much. According to the talking points distributed by the White House, the automatic tax increase would take effect “if, by 2014, the projected ratio of debt-to-GDP is not stabilized and declining toward the end of the decade.” If politicians in Washington spend too much and cause more red ink, which happens on a routine basis, Obama wants a provision that automatically would raise taxes on the American people. Typical liberalism. They never take responsibility for their actions. They want EVERYONE ELSE to take reasponsiblity for their actions. Obama's solution for Washington's out of control spending? WE ALL SUFFER! Remember this! 2012 is coming!
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| Weird how Reagan raised taxes many times, but when Obama does it something in the universe switches gears and presto chango a new attitude materializes? Or could it simply be there is no substance to the tax whiners? Latter methinks. Newsflash: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes (You Idiots) | Firedoglake "It’s conservative [and libertarian] lore that Reagan the icon cut taxes, while George H.W. Bush the renegade raised them. As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan’s watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was." Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly–but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year’s reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike–the largest since World War II–was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn’t count as raising taxes.)" ""Reagan was coming from this very simple proposition: If you lower the tax rate, then more people will work, there will be more income in the economy and everyone's lives would be better. Despite a 25 percent income tax cut, by 1982 Reagan faced a deepening recession, mounting unemployment and homelessness."" Ken Duberstein, Reagan Chief of Staff
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| Quote: They want EVERYONE ELSE to take reasponsiblity for their actions. I think i'd like Iraq, Lybia & Afghanistan , Isreal, Pallestine, and every other F'd up country we're pouring $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s into to take personal responsibility for thier actions, and leave us outta it....
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| Weird how Reagan raised taxes many times, but when Obama does it something in the universe switches gears and presto chango a new attitude materializes? Or could it simply be there is no substance to the tax whiners? Latter methinks. Newsflash: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes (You Idiots) | Firedoglake "It’s conservative [and libertarian] lore that Reagan the icon cut taxes, while George H.W. Bush the renegade raised them. As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan’s watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was." Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly–but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year’s reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike–the largest since World War II–was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn’t count as raising taxes.)" ""Reagan was coming from this very simple proposition: If you lower the tax rate, then more people will work, there will be more income in the economy and everyone's lives would be better. Despite a 25 percent income tax cut, by 1982 Reagan faced a deepening recession, mounting unemployment and homelessness."" Ken Duberstein, Reagan Chief of Staff Shall we examine how much we owed to China under Reagan as compared to Obama or how much we WILL OWE if we keep going under the policies of Obama??????? I don't think you want to go there. Nice try. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Gee, you libs didn't even try hard to excuse Obama on this. What's a matter, ran out of creative lies for Obama, or is this class warfare just too obvious to cover up? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| [quote=teapartysamurai;3531148] Quote: Typical liberalism. They never take responsibility for their actions. They want EVERYONE ELSE to take reasponsiblity for their actions. Obama's solution for Washington's out of control spending? WE ALL SUFFER! Remember this! 2012 is coming! And considering the number of people I know who have no spending to control, I'd say we're already suffering. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Obama or any solution he may have. But what I'd really like to know is who in or out of government thinks running this quasi-empire and all that goes along with that doesn't cost one hell of a lot of money. Since the government was not created to be an income producing entity, exactly where do the morons (in or out of Washington, D.C.) believe that money comes from? Ignorance is certainly not bliss in this regard. But on this subject the American people for the most part are blissfully ignorant. As usual most believe the standard being rolled out by the Conservatives - who by the way are almost solely responsible for the debt we're facing today. And their only answer is to rob the people who have paid the most into the system (Senior citizens) to keep the rich in monogrammed hankies.
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| Weird how Reagan raised taxes many times, but when Obama does it something in the universe switches gears and presto chango a new attitude materializes? Or could it simply be there is no substance to the tax whiners? Latter methinks. Newsflash: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes (You Idiots) | Firedoglake "It’s conservative [and libertarian] lore that Reagan the icon cut taxes, while George H.W. Bush the renegade raised them. As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan’s watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was." Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly–but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year’s reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike–the largest since World War II–was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn’t count as raising taxes.)" ""Reagan was coming from this very simple proposition: If you lower the tax rate, then more people will work, there will be more income in the economy and everyone's lives would be better. Despite a 25 percent income tax cut, by 1982 Reagan faced a deepening recession, mounting unemployment and homelessness."" Ken Duberstein, Reagan Chief of Staff Shall we examine how much we owed to China under Reagan as compared to Obama or how much we WILL OWE if we keep going under the policies of Obama??????? I don't think you want to go there. Nice try. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Quote: Responding to widespread criticism of his AWOL status on the budget fight, President Obama today unveiled a fiscal plan. It already is being criticized for its class warfare approach to tax policy, but the most disturbing feature may be a provision that punishes the American people with higher taxes if politicians overspend. Called a “debt failsafe trigger,” Obama’s scheme would automatically raise taxes if politicians spend too much. According to the talking points distributed by the White House, the automatic tax increase would take effect “if, by 2014, the projected ratio of debt-to-GDP is not stabilized and declining toward the end of the decade.” If politicians in Washington spend too much and cause more red ink, which happens on a routine basis, Obama wants a provision that automatically would raise taxes on the American people. » Obama’s Tax Increase Trigger: Punishing Taxpayers with Automatic Tax Hikes When Politicians Overspend - Big Government Typical liberalism. They never take responsibility for their actions. They want EVERYONE ELSE to take reasponsiblity for their actions. Obama's solution for Washington's out of control spending? WE ALL SUFFER! Remember this! 2012 is coming!
__________________ These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. 5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, this is the beginning of the end of any nation. |
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| I heard him say they'll be forced to make deepers cuts as a result of his fail safe. Who's got a link to this actual policy? I don't want to get mad until I see it en' script. |
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| This seems to be the excuse barrier that liberals hide behind when confronted with the insane policies of Obama . . . . BUT BUSH . . . BUT REAGAN . . . Shall we examine how much we owed to China under Reagan as compared to Obama or how much we WILL OWE if we keep going under the policies of Obama??????? I don't think you want to go there. Nice try. U.S. Federal Deficits, Presidents, and Congress Government - Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual The True Federal Deficit
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| Automatic tax hikes when government overspends. How isn't this a retarded idea? ![]() Hey, how about I get an automatic pay raise every time I overspend?
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