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Old 04-07-2011, 08:32 AM
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Non-Essential Federal Employees

With the shut down of the government nearing I am curious who you would consider as Non-essential federal employees. My major hope is that IRS agents would be in that lenghty list.
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It doesn't matter what anyone 'thinks' is non-essential, it matters only what IS actually non-essential.

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There should be no such thing as a nonessential employee.

So when the government tells those nonessential people to stay home, they should stay home permanently.
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In my mind, most of Congress falls under the 'Non-essential Federal Employee' category. Eric Holder and his staff too!
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The IRS will not audit, it will expect tax returns to be completed on time, refunds will be delayed.

Unaffected: armed services, police and fire, utilities, air traffic management and prisons. Seems reasonable.
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Shit. Half the Govt employees could fall off the map and who would notice??
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Seems somewhat logical to me that non-essential should be non-paid.
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Considering how irrelevant Congress has been making themselves, I wouldnt be surprised if they thought they could stay home.
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It doesn't matter what anyone 'thinks' is non-essential, it matters only what IS actually non-essential.
I guess you're the Supreme Arbiter of that question?
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There should be no such thing as a nonessential employee.

So when the government tells those nonessential people to stay home, they should stay home permanently.
Okay, so never again shall there be a tour of the White House or Capitol building.
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The IRS will not audit, it will expect tax returns to be completed on time, refunds will be delayed.

Unaffected: armed services, police and fire, utilities, air traffic management and prisons. Seems reasonable.
Actually, according to what Fox news was reporting last night, the military will stop being paid if the government shuts down. They will continue to accrue pay, which will be paid out later on after a budget has been passed. But they won't see it until that point. This puts a whole new perspective on the issue for me. We have tens of thousands of service members in combat zones right now. I find it utterly dishonorable that we may force many of their families to suddenly not have the money to pay bills and buy groceries.
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There should be no such thing as a nonessential employee.

So when the government tells those nonessential people to stay home, they should stay home permanently.
Okay, so never again shall there be a tour of the White House or Capitol building.

That type of function is performed by volunteer docents at museums all over the country.
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It doesn't matter what anyone 'thinks' is non-essential, it matters only what IS actually non-essential.
I guess you're the Supreme Arbiter of that question?
No. The Constitution is.

I would have thought that was obvious.
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The IRS will not audit, it will expect tax returns to be completed on time, refunds will be delayed.

Unaffected: armed services, police and fire, utilities, air traffic management and prisons. Seems reasonable.
Actually, according to what Fox news was reporting last night, the military will stop being paid if the government shuts down. They will continue to accrue pay, which will be paid out later on after a budget has been passed. But they won't see it until that point. This puts a whole new perspective on the issue for me. We have tens of thousands of service members in combat zones right now. I find it utterly dishonorable that we may force many of their families to suddenly not have the money to pay bills and buy groceries.

And Secretary Gates told the troops that they would get paid. Being a historian, he noted that throughout history, governments found it to be a good idea to make sure that the guys with guns were paid on time.
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It doesn't matter what anyone 'thinks' is non-essential, it matters only what IS actually non-essential.
I guess you're the Supreme Arbiter of that question?
No. The Constitution is.

I would have thought that was obvious.
Since when did the constitution address the issue of "essential" government employees?
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