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The USA is going to war again.

WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that a U.N. no-fly zone over Libya would require bombing targets inside the country, and a deputy acknowledged that Moammar Gadhafi's forces were making huge gains against the opposition.

Clinton gave her assessment during a visit to Tunisia and ahead of a planned U.N. vote, making clear the risk of possible military intervention as world powers considered broader steps to protect civilians and pressure the Libyan leader.

"A no-fly zone requires certain actions taken to protect the planes and the pilots, including bombing targets like the Libyan defense systems," Clinton said as she neared the end of a Middle East trip dominated by worries about Libya.

Both the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and the top Republican, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, expressed frustration with the administration and its articulation of policies.

Senators were in disagreement over the no-fly zone. Lugar doubted that U.S. interests would be served and said the step would require a declaration of war from Congress under the War Powers Act. He asked that Arab governments pay for any U.S. military involvement.

My Way News - Clinton: No-fly zone means bombing Libyan targets

Another war for liberal/ progressives/ centrists/ communist to protest. Liberals will send more of our young men, and women into harms way then turn against then, and not support them when they get there. Doesn't everyone feel safer now?
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This is stupid. Really.
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Another war for liberal/ progressives/ centrists/ communist to protest.
Umm... They won't protest it until a Republican is in the White House. Just so's ya know.
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What's the point. Ghadafi has already slaughtered his citizens and is now in control again.
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I guess it escapes the thought process of Americans that other countries are actually capable of enforcing a 'no fly' zone.... the EU, the Arab league... both are quite able to enforce without our involvement.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that a U.N. no-fly zone over Libya would require bombing targets inside the country, and a deputy acknowledged that Moammar Gadhafi's forces were making huge gains against the opposition.

Clinton gave her assessment during a visit to Tunisia and ahead of a planned U.N. vote, making clear the risk of possible military intervention as world powers considered broader steps to protect civilians and pressure the Libyan leader.

"A no-fly zone requires certain actions taken to protect the planes and the pilots, including bombing targets like the Libyan defense systems," Clinton said as she neared the end of a Middle East trip dominated by worries about Libya.

Both the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and the top Republican, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, expressed frustration with the administration and its articulation of policies.

Senators were in disagreement over the no-fly zone. Lugar doubted that U.S. interests would be served and said the step would require a declaration of war from Congress under the War Powers Act. He asked that Arab governments pay for any U.S. military involvement.

My Way News - Clinton: No-fly zone means bombing Libyan targets

Another war for liberal/ progressives/ centrists/ communist to protest. Liberals will send more of our young men, and women into harms way then turn against then, and not support them when they get there. Doesn't everyone feel safer now?
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:37 PM
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Maybe I am the only one that actually read the article, but you guys realize the bolded item is from Richard Lugar who is making a point to argue against the "no fly zone" right?

To date, the administration hasn't committed to a "no fly zone".
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What the hell is going on here? First us, Great Britain, Russia and Greece have billion dollar arms deals with Lybia, and now all of a sudden they are all canceled and we are gonna start dropping bombs on their anti-Aircraft sites? Something stinks about this whole thing, and it smells like crude Oil.

Just last Year Britian released the Lockerbie bomber and allowed him to return to Lybia in exchange for billions of dollars in Arms deals, which is unbelievable in itself. Now all of a sudden it's about the freedom of the Lybian people, LMAO! These International Socialist criminals have become so bold in what they plan and do that it passed arrogance long ago. And hey? It doesn't matter if the puppet masters robot has an (R) next to his / her name, or a (D) next to his / her name. It's all the same agenda. What a load of bullshit plopped onto a plate for all the stupid brainwashed sheople out there to swallow. ~BH
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Why? Exactly? This is none of our business at any level.
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What's the point. Ghadafi has already slaughtered his citizens and is now in control again.
The point is that, if McCain were President right now, we'd already have military intervention in Libya that could be anything from a "no fly zone" to boots on the ground.

This is why I voted for Obama.
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If Sen Lugar doubts the US interests will be served by the no fly zone is it safe to say that someone else's interest is more important ?
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Comcial. Gadhafi obviously doesn't have WMDs. Don't see the point in invading their country.
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What the hell is going on here? First us, Great Britain, Russia and Greece have billion dollar arms deals with Lybia, and now all of a sudden they are all canceled and we are gonna start dropping bombs on their anti-Aircraft sites? Something stinks about this whole thing, and it smells like crude Oil.

Just last Year Britian released the Lockerbie bomber and allowed him to return to Lybia in exchange for billions of dollars in Arms deals, which is unbelievable in itself. Now all of a sudden it's about the freedom of the Lybian people, LMAO! These International Socialist criminals have become so bold in what they plan and do that it passed arrogance long ago. And hey? It doesn't matter if the puppet masters robot has an (R) next to his / her name, or a (D) next to his / her name. It's all the same agenda. What a load of bullshit plopped onto a plate for all the stupid brainwashed sheople out there to swallow. ~BH
You'll notice that it is the GOP, and not the Democrats that want military intervention in Libya, right?

McCain and Lieberman both support a no fly zone.

Robert Gates (not a politician obviously) has correctly pointed out that is an act of war.

We have no business securing democracy for other people. Especially when they don't want our help and we are struggling at home.

If we are too poor to pay for NPR, then we are too poor to pay for jet fuel over Libya.
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What the hell is going on here? First us, Great Britain, Russia and Greece have billion dollar arms deals with Lybia, and now all of a sudden they are all canceled and we are gonna start dropping bombs on their anti-Aircraft sites? Something stinks about this whole thing, and it smells like crude Oil.

Just last Year Britian released the Lockerbie bomber and allowed him to return to Lybia in exchange for billions of dollars in Arms deals, which is unbelievable in itself. Now all of a sudden it's about the freedom of the Lybian people, LMAO! These International Socialist criminals have become so bold in what they plan and do that it passed arrogance long ago. And hey? It doesn't matter if the puppet masters robot has an (R) next to his / her name, or a (D) next to his / her name. It's all the same agenda. What a load of bullshit plopped onto a plate for all the stupid brainwashed sheople out there to swallow. ~BH
You'll notice that it is the GOP, and not the Democrats that want military intervention in Libya, right?

McCain and Lieberman both support a no fly zone.

Robert Gates (not a politician obviously) has correctly pointed out that is an act of war.

We have no business securing democracy for other people. Especially when they don't want our help and we are struggling at home.

If we are too poor to pay for NPR, then we are too poor to pay for jet fuel over Libya.
If you were trying to make a point, I missed it. Oh yeah sure bro. Of course, It's the GOP who desires it. Hey? I don't give a fuck who supports it, it would be a mistake. Lugar doesn't seem to like the idea. Hillary said that "the step would require a declaration of war from Congress under the War Powers Act."

She's serves on the Senate armed services committee. She's a war monger just like the rest of them. No worries, You'll see.

Course, Lugar finished with this " He asked that Arab governments pay for any U.S. military involvement". So I guess it's ok as long as we don't have to pay for it, which we will end up doing anyway. I don't care about (R's) vs (D's), these carpetbaggers on both sides take the same orders from their masters. ~BH

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