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The Republicans may want to claim the tea parties, but the tea parties are not en masse supporting the Republicans, not by a long shot.

As for the elections, the cry will be basically, "Anyone not pro-Obama." Thus the rats jumping ship, almost as fast as Obama kicks folks under his bus.
Really?

The Fix - Tea Party = Republican party?

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New data out of Gallup suggests that premise isn't right, as nearly seven in 10 tea party supporters describe themselves as "conservative Republicans."

All told, nearly 80 percent of tea party supporters describe themselves as Republicans, while 15 percent say they are Democrats and just six percent are, in their own minds, "pure independents."
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Fifteen percent of tea party backers have a favorable view of the president, while 11 percent of conservative Republicans say the same.
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Asked whether they would support a generic Republican or a generic Democrat for Congress this fall, 80 percent of tea party supporters chose the GOP candidate, while 15 percent opted for the Democrat. While the loyalty of tea party supporters to Republican candidates is lower than that of self-identified "conservative Republicans" -- 95 percent of whom back the GOP candidate in the generic ballot -- it is still heavily weighted toward candidates of a certain ideological proclivity.
Sounds like they support Republicans as close as one non-paid political group could be "en masse".
We'll see. Seems that right now there are two basic choices, thus the answer the Post is finding. However, different questions get different results and time will tell:

Roger L. Simon A New Majority? PJTV Poll Tracks Tea Party Supporters

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Starting today, PJTV — via its Tea Party TV wing, but we’re all PJ Media really — is sponsoring a weekly tracking poll on the public’s attitudes toward the Tea Party Movement (top line results here, video discussion here). Conducted for us by Pulse Opinion Research, these are “likely voter” polls using methods licensed from Rasmussen. One-thousand voters were surveyed on the first go-round with a sampling error of +/- 3%

We would be delighted to know your reactions to these polls as we go forward in the comments sections here or at PJTV. Feel free to suggest questions you would like to see asked and answered. I will be posting my reactions here.

For the first week’s results, I found one at least “interesting” and two I would have to categorize, by varying degrees, as “startling.”

Interesting: 54 percent supported the Tea Party Movement strongly or somewhat. The two categories of support were equally divided. Only 41% opposed the TPM (13% strongly, 28% somewhat).

Startling: 31 percent of self-identified Democrats support the TPM either strongly or somewhat.

Most Startling: Of the 54 percent who support the TPM, 52 percent do so privately [italics clearly deliberate]. Furthermore, just 9 percent consider themselves members of the movement but an additional 21 percent state they have friends and families who are.

In other words — despite all those demonstrations and town hall meetings you may have been watching, reading about or participating in — the Tea Party Movement is still largely sub rosa. Why? Well, a variety of answers suggest themselves (and I am sure you will have more), but, as a Hollywood screenwriter who voted for Bush, I know full well the necessity of keeping your mouth shut. And if we are a nation of people who have been keeping our mouths shut, look out in November.

To be “transparent,” however, as the parlance goes, I should point out that not all polls are showing as much favorability to the TPM as ours. Washington Post/ABC News has one showing some significant disapproval. (The WaPo/ABC poll is of “adults,” not “likely voters,” as ours is.) On the other hand, this poll, conducted by Democratic Party operatives, is perhaps more ominous for the Dems than ours...
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I went to your link Annie, I give Gallup and you give me PJTV?

I hate to focus on the source, but really? PJTV?

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I went to your link Annie, I give Gallup and you give me PJTV?

I hate to focus on the source, but really? PJTV?

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Way to go Larry!

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Yeah, the site lacks credibility Annie. Gallup is a respected poll.
So is Rasmussen. In any case, November will tell.
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you're such a partisan modbert....why do you even bother trying to say you're non partisan?

they are not the party of no and if they want to want one more month, then let them wait...i would rather them wait and have a good strategy...
Ah lovely, what a answer that was! Attack me personally and then say they're not the party of No. Conservatives are telling them to just admit they are the party of no.

You seem to not realize that they've been delaying telling the American people their agenda for awhile now. The fact is they continue to delay doing so until nearly the last minute.
oh come on...that wasn't an attack...it was simply stating a fact. if i wanted to attack you, i would have called you a hack, you know, like when you run around telling others they are partisan hacks...i merely commented on the fact that, despite your contentions otherwise, you are partisan. you will do anything to slam or attack teh republican party....but good lord, someone calls you out on that and you take it personal. perhaps you ought not to go around calling people hacks...

practice what you preach....

i have no problem with them waiting, even if he did come out with the full agenda, you would have still complained about it and criticized it. let's just be honest, nothing the republicans do will ever please you.
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Think Progress Claiming He Doesn’t Want To ‘Scoop’ Himself, McConnell Refuses To Detail GOP Agenda

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Last month, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said that Republicans shouldn’t “lay out a complete agenda” because it could become a “campaign issue.” Just days later, the heads of the Republican congressional campaign committees — Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Pete Sessions (R-TX) — failed to name a single specific policy they support on NBC’s Meet The Press, instead suggesting that Americans intuitively “understand what Republicans stand for.”
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This morning, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) appeared on Bloomberg to discuss policy and the GOP agenda. But he didn’t have much to say either:

HOST: Do Republicans need to articulate what you would do in power, as opposed to simply campaigning against what the President’s done?

MCCONNELL: I think we clearly do need to make sure Americans know what we would do and we’re gonna make that announcement in late September so the voters will have an opp…

HOST: But you have an opportunity right here to spell it out.

MCCONNELL: Yeah but I think I won’t scoop myself. We’ll be making that announcement in late September
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Last month, RedState founder and staunch conservative Erick Erickson even told the party to “stop lying” and admit that it’s the “Party of No.”
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But it’s not like the GOP has no ideas whatsoever. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) thinks that “all [Republicans] should do is issue subpoenas” if they win the House this fall. And House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), who “doesn’t need to see GDP numbers or talk to economists” to determine policy, instead had lobbyists help him come up with a “new policy agenda.
The Party of No has no ideas and is refusing to let the American people know what their agenda will be until almost the last minute. How shameful.
They're right most rational Americans understand what Republicans stand for which is small government, fiscal responsibility, personal accountability and adherence to the Constitution just to name a few.
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Last month, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said that Republicans shouldn’t “lay out a complete agenda” because it could become a “campaign issue.” Just days later, the heads of the Republican congressional campaign committees — Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Pete Sessions (R-TX) — failed to name a single specific policy they support on NBC’s Meet The Press, instead suggesting that Americans intuitively “understand what Republicans stand for.”
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This morning, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) appeared on Bloomberg to discuss policy and the GOP agenda. But he didn’t have much to say either:

HOST: Do Republicans need to articulate what you would do in power, as opposed to simply campaigning against what the President’s done?

MCCONNELL: I think we clearly do need to make sure Americans know what we would do and we’re gonna make that announcement in late September so the voters will have an opp…

HOST: But you have an opportunity right here to spell it out.

MCCONNELL: Yeah but I think I won’t scoop myself. We’ll be making that announcement in late September
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But it’s not like the GOP has no ideas whatsoever. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) thinks that “all [Republicans] should do is issue subpoenas” if they win the House this fall. And House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), who “doesn’t need to see GDP numbers or talk to economists” to determine policy, instead had lobbyists help him come up with a “new policy agenda.
The Party of No has no ideas and is refusing to let the American people know what their agenda will be until almost the last minute. How shameful.
Late September Press Release: "Republican Leadership Promises to cut taxes, cut spending and return honor to the White House"
"McConnell promises to reduce the deficit and end unemployment, restore equity to all homeowners and make sure there are two chickens in every American Pot."
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Think Progress Claiming He Doesn’t Want To ‘Scoop’ Himself, McConnell Refuses To Detail GOP Agenda

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Last month, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said that Republicans shouldn’t “lay out a complete agenda” because it could become a “campaign issue.” Just days later, the heads of the Republican congressional campaign committees — Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Pete Sessions (R-TX) — failed to name a single specific policy they support on NBC’s Meet The Press, instead suggesting that Americans intuitively “understand what Republicans stand for.”
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This morning, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) appeared on Bloomberg to discuss policy and the GOP agenda. But he didn’t have much to say either:

HOST: Do Republicans need to articulate what you would do in power, as opposed to simply campaigning against what the President’s done?

MCCONNELL: I think we clearly do need to make sure Americans know what we would do and we’re gonna make that announcement in late September so the voters will have an opp…

HOST: But you have an opportunity right here to spell it out.

MCCONNELL: Yeah but I think I won’t scoop myself. We’ll be making that announcement in late September
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Last month, RedState founder and staunch conservative Erick Erickson even told the party to “stop lying” and admit that it’s the “Party of No.”
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But it’s not like the GOP has no ideas whatsoever. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) thinks that “all [Republicans] should do is issue subpoenas” if they win the House this fall. And House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), who “doesn’t need to see GDP numbers or talk to economists” to determine policy, instead had lobbyists help him come up with a “new policy agenda.
The Party of No has no ideas and is refusing to let the American people know what their agenda will be until almost the last minute. How shameful.
When your enemy is self-destructing the best thing you can do is sit back and watch. Absolutely no need to tip their hats. Just look at what the Dems have "accomplished" with 4 years of Congressional control:
End the war in Iraq. Nope
End the war in Afghanistan. Nope
Lower gas prices. Nope
Pass environmental legislation. Nope
Close Gitmo. Nope
Pass health care with a public option. Nope
Rein in deficits. Nope.
Create more jobs. Nope.

Democrats are the Party of Nope.

And of course the Party of Fuck You.
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mcconnell says the republicans will lay out their plans in september. that gives voters two months to examine them before november.

on the other hand, months and months ago obama told us he was starting a debt commission to tackle one of the most important issues of our time. when will they lay out their proposals? LATE NOVEMBER

wow, how convenient that they will lay out their higher tax proposals right after the election.

i'm sure there was no way they could get that report out in late october.
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i have no problem with them waiting, even if he did come out with the full agenda, you would have still complained about it and criticized it. let's just be honest, nothing the republicans do will ever please you.
That's the problem there Yurt, they don't have a agenda because they don't want people to have a opportunity to debate the merits of it, and yes criticize it.

You'd have no problem waiting because you plan on voting for them no matter what they put out.
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Since when?
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Since you were still shitting yellow.
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