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And Taz and his friends are resting only on opinion. OK. That's their right. But not one of them brought any evidence to the floor that is worthwhile considering. The one dork's opinion about the 10th does not matter in the slightest; his thinking is of no import. The only importance is that of SCOTUS.
Junior you haven't brought anything to the discussion. So the only opion that is important is that of SCOTUS. What if SCOTUS ruled that everybody had to convert to Christianity would you still think SCOTUS had the only opinion?
SCOTUS ruling trump your opinions, sonny. Don't be stupid with "what if". What if you could reason; now that would be interesting.
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LOL comprehension isn't your strongest trait is it?

I want YOU to tell me what the tenth Amendment says not what may have been debated. I want your opinion.
Maybe your memory is as faulty as your logic?

I posted the text of the 10th already. I also posted alongside it the facts of the arguments over the interpretations of the text.
You used the link that I used earlier. Now why would I provbide something that would contrdict what I have proven?
I guess you didn't read the whole sourse before youy posted thinking it was supporting your opinion.

Nonetheless, the constitutional revolution was transitory. In 1883, the Supreme Court, having already limited the Fourteenth Amendment's protections of the rights of freedmen, declared the Civil Rights Act of 1875 unconstitutional on the ground that it was “repugnant to the Tenth Amendment” (Civil Rights Cases, p. 15). During the next generation, the Court struck down a number of state exercises of the police power—in keeping with the Tenth Amendment's “prohibited by it to the states” clause—yet it never once allowed Congress to exercise a police power itself.

repugnant to the Tenth Amendment
Now what does repugnant mean?

1 : incompatible, inconsistent
2 archaic : hostile
3 : exciting distaste or aversion <repugnant language> <a morally repugnant practice>

The debate still drags on until the tenth is repealed it still the collar around the neck of the federal government. We can either pull in the government or let it run a little further out.
still stuck on stupid?

I posted the text of the 10th. Not from any link you had.


I also posted info from...

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O18...Amendment.html

and maybe even from... The Constitution: A Question of Interpretation – Tenth Amendment Center

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now pay attention. here is what may separate you from the Fitzs of the world.

ready?

The second link? It has a conclusion I disagree with., but I posted it because even though I differ with that one scholar, but in a roundabout way he does admit it is a matter of opinion and interpretation. How? He frames the debate as one of 'Defenders of the Constitution" with Opponents of the Constitution"

Now he may be a constitutional scholar, and I a blowhard (like you) on the internet(s), but not being an average blowhard (like Fitz), I am aware that the framers of the Constitution themselves would and did, disagree with his analysis and framing of the debate.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:37 PM
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Ugh! I had thought you were a serous poster.

sigh

here, below in quotes, is what we were talking about...what argument is moot?

What's up thang? you said that the tenth hasn't been repealed if that is the case then you have no arguement. The tenth is the amendment that the people have the right to give the power to a central government or they have the power to take the power away from that central government. We give the Federal power and with the authority from the tenth we can take it away.
10th:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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The amendment itself is separate from the issue of interpretation. Your arguments are based upon an idea called Originalism that has gained ground in the last few decades or so (see page 7: Powered by Google Docs harvard-jlpp.com

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You make up arguments you then go on to win, arguing against yourself, and then you posit opinion as accepted fact?



at one time you may have been a worthy opponent: when I was still in Junior High School.
Hey little red riding hood from NC, we argue on pages 10 and 11, then w e get here on page 13.

here's another link I used: American President: Calvin Coolidge: A Life in Brief

I think now more than ever, that you are unclear on the concept.
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No, it's only "obvious" to a race hustling knuckle-dragger like you.

But thanks for showing one and all what leftist neanderthals like you really think about affirmative discrimination.
ha.

what an idiot.
Projectiong again junior? I told you what you should say in the mirror 20 times a day. or have you forgotten it already?
psst, see my last post above this one.
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So Dante kicks Big Fits' ass, and Fits infers that he knows it.
yep, in so many words.

Wow... gonna give Joke the reach around there Dante after he hands you his well used ass? I wasn't sure you were courteous for that but I've been wrong before.

But at least you two are still delusional.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:47 PM
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I never said it was all about racism. Yet, almost all state's rights arguments made by Southerners concern issues based on race.
Is that so? Unlike you I actually live down here and I've never heard a southerner make a states' rights argument based on race.
You are young......missed the Civil Rights movement
Hmmmmmm... you do know it's not 1969 anymore, right? Mother Jones is no longer an important magazine, Bull Connor's Dead and Jim Crow's been repealed.
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Yet, almost all state's rights arguments made by Southerners concern issues based on race.
Jeez! You are so ignorant of your own inherent racism! It'd be even funnier if you were white too. Nothing like self loathing to really cleanse the palette. Yes all white southerners who love the concept of states rights are so they can put darkies back on the plantations like they're supposed to be. Whatta jackass you are. Northern condescending racism is SO much more tolerable.
Idiot. Self-loathing is an apt label for whites who feel guilty about admitting their own racial prejudices against the non whites amongst us.

Your attack is sad. You refuse to admit what I posted is factual, so you attack me?
Keep maintaining the delusion... Life would suck if you ever dealt with reality.
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yeah, only a few of you had the balls to be honest and call Obama a niggar. The rest of you threw the Tea Party leader out for saying what was on other's minds.
You are such a racist piece of delusional shit.
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yeah, only a few of you had the balls to be honest and call Obama a niggar. The rest of you threw the Tea Party leader out for saying what was on other's minds.
You are such a racist piece of delusional shit.
Racist? Only in as much as I was born in America. I have no problems with any race. I am biased in favor whites, because I am white. But I'm not blind or stupid. I know a racist when they open their mouths.

note: I also do not believe in race except as a human construct. I use the term 'race' for the purposes of discussion and common understandings of the term
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Racist? Only in as much as I was born in America. I have no problems with any race. I am biased in favor whites, because I am white. But I'm not blind or stupid. I know a racist when they open their mouths.
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Fits, Taz, and the other wing nuts from the far right code the construct of race into their language. They pretend they are not racist, but their actions prove otherwise. I have no doubt that many of their ilk would dearly like to interfere with citizens of colors' rights to vote. That would hand the decision making back to the white male. They forget the white males of principle in the Democratic and Republican parties put an end to this nonsense in 1964 and 1965.

One of the jokers said that this is not 1969 now. True, but they would take us back to 1959 if they could.
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Only in as much as I was born in America.
Them southern whites must be racist, because well, they're southerners. That's what you put forward. If that isn't what you believe, you need to explain yourself. Your nationality has nothing to do with racism.

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Riiiiight. "Tha's why dem black folk need to be protected. They're not capable of standing on their own and need special rules to protect them from the ravages of society. They're such children." Your posts DRIP of this kind of bullshit condescension.

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I am biased in favor whites, because I am white.
As long as they agree with you politically and are fans of condescension racism as well.

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But I'm not blind or stupid.
Really? You've proven that a lie for months now.
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I know a racist when they open their mouths.
I think you need to listen to yourself for a while. "Them tea partiers are racist cause they oppose the president. Anyone who opposes the president MUST be a racist, because he's black and is incapable of being held to the same standards as a white man. And why would they oppose Hope and Change if they weren't racist bastards who should be shot on sight. Doubly so if they're from a southern or fly over states."

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note: I also do not believe in race except as a human construct.
Yes sir! Proving your stupidity yet again. DNA I think has more to say about race than opinion polls.

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Wow, you backpedal like a class III High School Cornerback... in other words badly.
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Awwww Whassamatta Dante? DOn't like being exposed for the racist unethical shit you are? Gotta neg rep because you can't hack the truth of your public image? I keep telling you, neg rep me for disagreeing and you will get more of the same.
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Racist? Only in as much as I was born in America. I have no problems with any race. I am biased in favor whites, because I am white. But I'm not blind or stupid. I know a racist when they open their mouths.
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Awwww Whassamatta Dante? DOn't like being exposed for the racist unethical shit you are? Gotta neg rep because you can't hack the truth of your public image? I keep telling you, neg rep me for disagreeing and you will get more of the same.
Fitz, stop whining about reps and stop making rep shit public. It's getting to be embarrassing just knowing you.
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