Calvin Coolidge born July 4 Hero to tea partiers

an oops moment, for me and a d'oh! moment for you? I'd day that's par for the course.

A simple googling of a few words would have sent you to American President: Calvin Coolidge: A Life in Brief

The weird thing is how you automatically project your own wingnut habits onto those who challenge your FOX News world view. Dante, hardly ever goes to the KOS site. Hardly ever.

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The operative phrase: "What you can't do is define the Constitution the way you want it to read. That is why we have courts"

Amusing how you hide from it and post replies to arguments of your own making. You have a mildly severe case of wingnut dis-ease

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Let's see what you said about the Madison quote
"So Jefferson was a one man's opinion but you take Madison’s word as gospel? Just because Jefferson’s opinion supersedes your opinion you get pissed.

Thomas Jefferson’s Other Declaration
Some people are surprised to learn that in response to these acts, Jefferson did not hold up the First Amendment in protest. Rather he invoked the Tenth Amendment, which states that:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Essentially, he argued that by passing and enforcing the Alien and Sedition Acts, the federal government had over stepped its bounds and was exercising powers which belonged to the states.

In other words, the Alien and Sedition Acts were acts of usurpation.

James Madison corresponded with Jefferson about these issues, (they suspected that their mail was being secretly opened and read by the way). As a result of their correspondence, James Madison penned another series of resolutions against the Alien and Sedition Acts, which were passed by the Virginia legislature in 1798 and 1799.
Thomas Jefferson’s Other Declaration – Tenth Amendment Center

What's amusing is that you respond but will not answer the question. So I will directly ask you the question
Has the tenth Amendment beed repealed?

Yeah, I know. I was there earlier and read their highly biased review. Intellectual impartiality my copious pasty white ass.

This is the kind of character we need in a president again:

Someone unimpressed with and hostile to the power of Washington.

I love the fact that he had one of the richest most successful men in the world as his Sec Treas: Andrew Mellon. Proof that successful businessmen know how to grow business by getting out of the way. Much better than tax cheat, Little Timmy Geithner.

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Admin, please delete account.

I actually don't really have an opinion on the political structures states should or should not be able to institute in the theoretical absence of Article IV. Someone asked why states have the structures they do--that's why they do.

Are you familiar with the concept of a value neutral statement? Or do all statements of fact have ideological purpose in your eyes?

Philosophical approaches to the question of the scope of federal power have differed, going all the way back to the founding generation. You can find signers of the Constitution who took opposite sides on this issue (including the two primary authors of the Federalist papers, Madison and Hamilton). It's a debate that has been with us since the beginning and it has been at the center of many of the big events in American history. We fought a civil war over it, we now have thousands of pages of case law concerning it, more than two centuries of precedents, etc and yet it remains largely an open question (under what conditions do the powers granted in the Commerce Clause apply? how elastic is the elastic clause? do we prefer Jefferson's or Hamilton's interpretation of the general welfare clause?). There is no definitive answer to these questions. Instead we have an ongoing political debate that ebbs and flows based on political events--elections.

Don't risk Carpel Tunnel on that cretin. Fair warning.

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What is there to debate? The states have allowed the federal government to run out of control but that still does not negate that the tenth amendment still has the teeth that will take the bite out of the federal government. All we have to do is elected state officals that will invoke the tenth and all the powers that it has.

Your inability to comprehend is astounding.

in regards the Madison quote: I mention quoting something of substance.

in regards the Jefferson quote: I do not attack the quote as lacking substance.

in regards you and others here: I do not ever get pissed at the comments of fools and idiots.

I take neither man's words as gospel. but it is interesting that appear to believe one man's words may be considered gospel. And please, do not deny you do. How can you do so credibly, since you, not I, are the one who introduced the concept of a founding father's words as gospel.

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As far as your selective mentions of Madison and Jefferson and what they, I am not unawares of each man's flaws and limitations when it came to real life examples of them following their own words.

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Kiddo, you are not a constitutional expert, remember? You are simply unhappy that it is not being interpreted the way you want it to be. Let you in on a secret: it never will be.

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'Beware all thieves and imitators of other peoples' labour and talents," Durer, 1511

Of course it hasn't, and no one has said it has. You are inventing an argument and then winning it -- against yourself.

congratulations: you have officially graduated with honors from the USMB Wingnut Academy.

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James Madison put it best.

"Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a federal, and not a national constitution."



Too bad its turning out to be the other way around.

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If you were political view were clear (instead of muddied, which it is), you will never get the state officials you want. What you are asking for is a new Progressivism, from the bottom up, to fix things. How funny.

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'Beware all thieves and imitators of other peoples' labour and talents," Durer, 1511

Dante Fevah strikes again!

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You do know both Madison and Hamilton wrote the majority of the Constitution?

Well, it seems they both later disagreed with themselves and each other over what exactly the words they penned in the Constitution actually meant.

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