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| DIAMOND RAVE: "Murder would be the charge... and the associated punishments that already exist" ...that would be 'first degree' 'pre-meditated' murder punishment for both the woman ('murderess') and 'the hitman' (doctor)..and anyone else who knew and didn't report would be guily of withholding, obstruction, etc. in a murder case?, etc... |
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| Frank, have you ever had a single thought in your life that didn't have to do with YOU? Can your beloved authority, the state, ever do anything wrong when it restricts someone ELSE'S freedoms, arrests, punishes, incarcerates or executes OTHERS? I have a hard time understanding stupid gibberish, but is that your contention?
__________________ The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith |
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| DIAMOND RAVE: "Murder would be the charge... and the associated punishments that already exist" ...that would be 'first degree' 'pre-meditated' murder punishment for both the woman ('murderess') and 'the hitman' (doctor)..and anyone else who knew and didn't report would be guily of withholding, obstruction, etc. in a murder case?, etc... ![]()
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| Execution is only for specific situation cases of 1st degree murder.... there are various punishments for murder up to and including the death penalty Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry.
__________________ The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith |
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| ...so that's the republican plan for 'the economy'..putting an army of abortion lawyers, judges, jailers, 'experts,' etc. ad nauseam to 'work' in the new conservative republican 'abortion punishment' industry!.. ...btw, what about women taking a 'morning after pill'..or using an IUD for that matter...they are guilty of 1st degree murder too, right diamondknave?!.. ![]() ..(let's wager on how long it takes for diamondknave to start bitching again about 'big bad government') Last edited by sweetie; 04-29-2010 at 07:56 AM. |
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| Execution is only for specific situation cases of 1st degree murder.... there are various punishments for murder up to and including the death penalty Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry. I know, some of the old laws of ancient Japan or the civilizations of South America? Don't take it that just because I am against the murder of innocent developing children that I am some literal bible thumper
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| Republican Party - party of less government - brought you - domestic spying - legislation against gays. Fiscal policies - deregulation leading to decimation of economy - tax cuts for rich - two unpaid for wars - benefit cuts for veterans fight money-making wars. After they drove the car into the ditch, do we given them another car? Hmmm? |
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| ...so that's the republican plan for 'the economy'..putting an army of abortion lawyers, judges, jailers, 'experts,' etc. ad nauseam to 'work' in the new conservative republican 'abortion punishment' industry!.. ...btw, what about women taking a 'morning after pill'..or using an IUD for that matter...they are guilty of 1st degree murder too, right diamondknave?!.. ![]() ..(let's wager on how long it takes for diamondknave to start bitching again about 'big bad government') ![]() What next, trying to parallel this to masturbation or cosmetic surgery? This has nothing to do with anything but the government's or law enforcement's charge to protect innocent life... just as you are not allowed to kill an innocent newborn or other dependent innocent being for your convenience... the government is allowed to intrude in your personal life when you are indeed killing someone for your choice of convenience... funny how it is more of a uproar or crime to kill a cat, than it is a developing human
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| SO...you'll pay for that then? The depth and the scope of right wing ignorance, blind statism and right wing self ONLY freedom is amazing. It truly is. Frank, have you ever had a single thought in your life that didn't have to do with YOU? Can your beloved authority, the state, ever do anything wrong when it restricts someone ELSE'S freedoms, arrests, punishes, incarcerates or executes OTHERS? I have a hard time understanding stupid gibberish, but is that your contention?
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| Execution is only for specific situation cases of 1st degree murder.... there are various punishments for murder up to and including the death penalty Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry. Let's distinguish between God and what People declare in His Name. |
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| Murder... the illegal taking of another human life... the developing child is indeed a life with its own unique DNA signature... it is a life of its own, even if dependent on another for current survival.... it is no different than murdering an infant, a person in a coma, or an old person dependent on the support of others Execution is only for specific situation cases of 1st degree murder.... there are various punishments for murder up to and including the death penalty Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry. I know, some of the old laws of ancient Japan or the civilizations of South America? Don't take it that just because I am against the murder of innocent developing children that I am some literal bible thumper Genesis 2:7: “and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul”. What about a woman who uses birth control pills, an IUD or a morning after pill? 25 years?
__________________ The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith |
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| Murder... the illegal taking of another human life... the developing child is indeed a life with its own unique DNA signature... it is a life of its own, even if dependent on another for current survival.... it is no different than murdering an infant, a person in a coma, or an old person dependent on the support of others Execution is only for specific situation cases of 1st degree murder.... there are various punishments for murder up to and including the death penalty Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry. Let's distinguish between God and what People declare in His Name.
__________________ The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith |
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| Then God should be executed. Num 5:29-30 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. According to this law, if a husband suspects that his wife has been unfaithful, he can force her to submit to a trial by ordeal. The woman must then drink a holy potion made with water and dust from the floor of the tabernacle. If the woman is innocent, drinking the bitter water that brings curses will not affect her. If the woman is guilty, she will become ill and any fetus she carries in her womb will miscarry. Let's distinguish between God and what People declare in His Name. |
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| If a woman is in labor and suddenly decides she doesn't want the baby, would it be ok to simply kill the baby once it's delivered? No? Then why is it ok to kill the baby before it's delivered? Last edited by Some Guy; 04-29-2010 at 09:42 AM. |
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