Time for honest posters to admit mistakes

Really? You make a claim and have no intention of supporting it and even tell others to support your claim? That says a lot about your claim.

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I contend there is no sign of recovery. Unemployment is still in the double digits. It's barely budged. Florida's unemployment rate actually just went up. The housing market is still in the toilet. There are more people on government assistance than ever in American history. The dollar continues to fall and the U.S. is in danger of losing it's AAA bond rating.

This is not a recovery. It's a death spiral.

Lest we fail to mention that the last several T-bill auctions have been big jokes.

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Did I "tell others to support MY calim"? How so?

as for "no intention to support MY claim" is it your contention that you are unaware of any evidence of recovery traction?

I apologize for making the asumption that posters here have been keeping up with current events. Exactly how much remedial review is required?

I apologize for my lack of patience. But I have not been on these boards for awhile. I've been on discussion boards where other posters don't childishly demand a full review of everything that has been reported on a subject over several months time with each new post.

I'll leave you folks to enjoy each others company once again.

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Malt does more than Milton can
to justify God's way to man
- A.E. Housman

In other words, you realized we're right.

Come back again soon.

I'll apologize again - I have no patience for intellectual dishonesty and silly games. I had forgotten that they seem to be the fuel that drives so many posters here. It was my oversight and I apologize for reacting poorly to what I should have expected.

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Malt does more than Milton can
to justify God's way to man
- A.E. Housman

How ironic that you want a thread about honesty and open it with a lie.

The stimulous packages didn't help anything, except keep a number of states from trying to balance their budgets, its stated purpose by Obama was that 90% of jobs created would be private sector, yet the new claim is it was about 'saving jobs' which it also failed to do.

Many economic experts stated in october of 08 that if NOTHING was done a rebound could be expected by late 09 or early '10. Thanks to Barry and his clown patrol, there is no recovery, but there is plenty more debt.

Getting to the actual topic, I never believed that all dems would vote like lemmings on Obama's orders and throw away their careers, yet that is exactly what happened.

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Moving on, hail and farewell.

The economy, in my uninformed opinion, from the point of view of say the average worker is NOT doing that well. Tax increases, cost of living increases without the benefit of raises has not been kind to many. With that, the up and coming reforms, programs and other agendas that have to be paid for. The America of Change has begun, who will survive without losing their more of their basic freedoms and financial security will not be fully known for a while.

For many others, the economy is BOOMING. I know some who are enjoying a financial windfall, and others that have just declared bankruptcy and some losing their homes. A seemingly volatile economic future for many. The split of those who are doing well or not so well with this transitory economy is widening, with the 'not so well' growing daily.

If this keeps up I may have to get a part time job at Walmart as a greeter, after not working since 1999, my toys are wearing out and I require replacements.

Just like the people that believed they would end abortion and Affirmative action.

Then all they do is deregulate and cut corporate taxes.

Some fools never learn

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I made a mistake once. I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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Intellectual dishonesty and silly games .... for what? To protect your own ego or to protect a political point of view?

It's childish.

Trying to twist and squirm and trump up negatives in an effort to argue that the economy in NOT on much more solid footing than it was a year ago is absurd. Trying to plead ignorance of any evidence contrary to that position is sophomoric. If those are the types of games you enjoying playing, that's certainly your perogative. But don't blame me for calling them exactly what they are ..... childish, silly games.

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Malt does more than Milton can
to justify God's way to man
- A.E. Housman

they are small people.

They dont care that everyone reading what they post recognises ( even those that join them in the insanity) that they have screwed the pooch.

To them its not important to be right, its more important to never flinch from the positions they take even in the face of facts and reality.

The world and the country dont really matter to them ,Its all about never flinching from the ideas that have been proven failures time and time again.

Dont ask me why they do this , it makes no sense.

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Yes, we all make mistakes. However, not everyone will admit to it.

As for Nodog's contention about hyper-inflation, I will admit I was one of those who expected it and said so on another site maybe even here. Economic conditions have worsened since the Stimulus package was passed not gotten better, but we're not facing hyper-inflation for the time being. We're facing a recession and the Stimulus package did nothing at all to avert it. I surely don't see unemployment numbers falling.

Some will say things would have been worse without it. I say prove that while at the same time I realize proving it is impossible.

I recognize no benefits to date... except for some blocked roads that are supposed to be improved someday by the stimulus package.

However, I did think the Stimulus package would bring about hyper-inflation, and might have had it succeeded in its goals. It appears that so far that was wrong and of course, if and when we do hit an inflationary or even hyper-inflationary period, the administration will blame something besides the Stimulus package.

Immie

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Nice try.

Attempting to claim Barry's massive increase in the deficiet was 'good' has to be the spin of the day.

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Moving on, hail and farewell.

Its not impossible Immie.

The states were set to fire people before it came down and the firings were trimed due to the stimulus.

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