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Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger
Quote: Originally Posted by Zona
Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger
Maybe some competition would convince them to bring down their rates
Oh...I forgot....That would be SOCIALISM People like Avatar just don't get it. There is nothing out there to stop them from raising it to ANYTHING they want. ANYTHING.
I don't understand him being happy with this. He represents so many republicans because they actually have him believing this is a good thing. Yes...up until the point where he can no longer afford his own insurance At that point, his fellow republicans would say he didn't plan well.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Avatar4321 Then purchase a policy with a different company that's cheaper. Problem solved. If you have a pre existing condition, you cant. Problem just starting.....not solved. my state only has Anthem and one other insurer that insures 88% of the people with health insurance...we have a Duopoly here...both insurers can keep their prices high due to it....
Also, most people get their insurance through their employer who offers only ONE insurance company to cover them....employees have to go with their company plan(s) in order to get their employer to pay the 60%-70% of the cost, as most employers do....most people would NOT be able to afford to go to another insurance company on an individual insurance policy on their own... I priced Anthem last year, for an individual policy for Matt and me, was $25,ooo with a $5k deductible. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Chris Health insurance is a scam.
I dropped mine years ago. No wonder you are so eager for everyone else to pay for your coverage. Why should I pay an insurance company to lobby Congress to deny me coverage?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Avatar4321
Quote: Originally Posted by Chris Health insurance is a scam.
I dropped mine years ago. No wonder you are so eager for everyone else to pay for your coverage. Why should I pay an insurance company to lobby Congress to deny me coverage?
Only an idiot would do that. leach
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Quote: Originally Posted by Care4all
Quote: Originally Posted by Zona
Quote: Originally Posted by Avatar4321 Then purchase a policy with a different company that's cheaper. Problem solved. If you have a pre existing condition, you cant. Problem just starting.....not solved. my state only has Anthem and one other insurer that insures 88% of the people with health insurance...we have a Duopoly here...both insurers can keep their prices high due to it....
Also, most people get their insurance through their employer who offers only ONE insurance company to cover them....employees have to go with their company plan(s) in order to get their employer to pay the 60%-70% of the cost, as most employers do....most people would NOT be able to afford to go to another insurance company on an individual insurance policy on their own... I priced Anthem last year, for an individual policy for Matt and me, was $25,ooo with a $5k deductible. Avatar, comments?
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Quote: Originally Posted by del
Quote: Originally Posted by Chris
Quote: Originally Posted by Avatar4321
No wonder you are so eager for everyone else to pay for your coverage. Why should I pay an insurance company to lobby Congress to deny me coverage?
Only an idiot would do that. leach Not at all.
I pay for all of my healthcare out of my own pocket.
I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs.
And everyone in my family lives to be 95.
Why should I pay for your bad habits? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Chris
Quote: Originally Posted by del
Quote: Originally Posted by Chris
Why should I pay an insurance company to lobby Congress to deny me coverage?
Only an idiot would do that. leach Not at all.
I pay for all of my healthcare out of my own pocket.
I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs.
And everyone in my family lives to be 95.
Why should I pay for your bad habits? it's nice that your family lives to an age equal to its collective IQ.
good for you, kirky.
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Quote: Originally Posted by del
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leach Not at all.
I pay for all of my healthcare out of my own pocket.
I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs.
And everyone in my family lives to be 95.
Why should I pay for your bad habits? it's nice that your family lives to an age equal to its collective IQ.
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Not at all.
I pay for all of my healthcare out of my own pocket.
I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs.
And everyone in my family lives to be 95.
Why should I pay for your bad habits? it's nice that your family lives to an age equal to its collective IQ.
good for you, kirky. It's nice to know the idiots are still running the asylum. have an almond, remax.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zona Anthem Blue Cross customers got a shock this week when the health insurer informed thousands of individual policyholders that their premium rates will jump as much as 39 percent on March 1.
"There aren't any other parts of our society where people have no regard for inflation rate and increase their prices this much. I can't imagine anything in the world that's going up 39 percent," said Josh Libresco, 54, of San Rafael, as he grappled with the news that his family premium will go from $858 per month to $1,192 - and that's with a $5,000 deductible. Anthem Blue Cross raises premiums If there were a public option, this would not have happened. The insurance companies have us over a barrel and they know it. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by beowolfe
Quote: Originally Posted by Zona Anthem Blue Cross customers got a shock this week when the health insurer informed thousands of individual policyholders that their premium rates will jump as much as 39 percent on March 1.
"There aren't any other parts of our society where people have no regard for inflation rate and increase their prices this much. I can't imagine anything in the world that's going up 39 percent," said Josh Libresco, 54, of San Rafael, as he grappled with the news that his family premium will go from $858 per month to $1,192 - and that's with a $5,000 deductible. Anthem Blue Cross raises premiums If there were a public option, this would not have happened. The insurance companies have us over a barrel and they know it. That's why we need a public option. To keep the insurance companies in line.
That's why the Republicans and the Blue Dogs in Congress are fighting it so hard.
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Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger Quote: Anthem Blue Cross raises premiums 39% Maybe some competition would convince them to bring down their rates
Oh...I forgot....That would be SOCIALISM No... adding competition is not socialism
Adding the mythical competition where the governing body forces participation and provides an 'option' where forced redistribution facilitated by government bureaucracy, is not adding competition
But nice try, Mr. Disingenuous
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Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger Quote: Anthem Blue Cross raises premiums 39% Maybe some competition would convince them to bring down their rates
Oh...I forgot....That would be SOCIALISM Of course it would and no, it wouldn't be called socialism, it would be called dropping the foolish restriction of limiting people to purchase within their own state!
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave
Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger Quote: Anthem Blue Cross raises premiums 39% Maybe some competition would convince them to bring down their rates
Oh...I forgot....That would be SOCIALISM No... adding competition is not socialism
Adding the mythical competition where the governing body forces participation and provides an 'option' where forced redistribution facilitated by government bureaucracy, is not adding competition
But nice try, Mr. Disingenuous
So whats YOUR solution? Seriouosly, other than saying no, whats your soulution....republicans...
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Rep Power: 11 | | | I have Blud Cross Blue Shield here in Georgia. My policy went up 20%. My wife is a top tennis player and I am in great shape at age 54. NO prescriptions at all and workout weekly.
13 years ago my policy was $2500 a year. 6 1/2 years ago it was 5K a year. This yearit will be 13K.
In 6 1/2years it will be 26K and in 13 years my health premium will be 52K.
Fifty Two thousand dollars a year in 2023 for my health care policy.
And folks claim this is a great country for health care.
What a friggin myth that is.
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