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Quote: Originally Posted by PLYMCO_PILGRIM Martha Coakley interview
This is a fascinating interview of Martha Coakley this morning on a local TV station, focusing mostly on health care. Note how Martha Coakley dismisses the concerns that voters have about health care by claiming the voters are too “unfocused,” don’t really understand this issues involved, etc.
In particular, watch her adamant response to the question about the fact that 61 percent of voters in the Suffolk poll don’t think we can afford government-run health care. “Are they wrong?” the interviewer asks.
“They ARE wrong,” Coakley practically shouts—it’s her most passionate moment in the interview. She then suggests the issue is too “complicated” for the voters to grasp. She also shows she has no idea how health care works, erroneously claiming (among other things) that more medical screenings will save money. As everyone who has covered this issue knows, more screenings mean MORE money and higher costs (it’s that crazy “supply and demand” thing, Martha).
Don’t believe me? Here’s what the CBO had to say about it: "Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness."
They can also save lives, so it may be good policy. But claiming preventative care will cut costs shows you don’t know what you’re talking about.
So once again we’ve got an elitist, establishment liberal calling everyone else stupid, while demonstrating that she doesn’t understand even the most basic elements of ObamaCare.
Keep talking, Martha. You’re the best friend Scott Brown ever had.
She proceeds to reiterate
This type of attitude (Americans are too stupid to understand anything) has been reflected in the democrat party attitude for many years. Nancy Pelosi's recent comment about Obama--basically stating that campaign promises are always made that are broken & laughing about it. This over someone asking her about the 7 or 8 promises from Obama about the health care bill being "transperent"--then Nancy goes on to state that this administration is transperant. I mean one would really have to be fairly stupid to believe that.
So--one would have to believe that all these comments from democrats are telling us they believe the American populace is ignorant.
Let's face it--democrats depend on ignorance to get elected.
So, If you're one of those that prefer to watch Dancing with the Stars or other reality type shows--& pay practically no attention at all as to what our government is doing. PLEASE STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE VOTING BOOTH. You're just cancelling out an educated vote. Seriously, if they really believed the American people were not so fucking stupid they'd have no reason to put forward all the policies to take care of the ignorant masses. Give me a candidate that believes in the innate commonsense of the populace and I'll show you a winner. Doesn't matter which party, McCain could be as condescending as the best of them, but he did 'hear' reaction and change his tone.
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01-18-2010, 12:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SwingVoter
Quote: Originally Posted by MIPS 1. Get in the vote before Brown is confirmed
2. Reconciliation in the Senate
3. Attempt to pass the Senate Bill in the House unaltered
1. tea parties will look like nothing if this happens - Annie's earlier point about voter anger is right on
2. every other bill Barack tries to pass will die if they do this, which might not be a bad thing, got lots of Dems in swing states who are already very nervous about their vote on this thing most of the country doesn't want
3. first bill made it through the house by 5 votes, so if just 3 of 435 start making Brown because of the Brown development, won't make it through, Pelosi already told Obama not to expect the senate bill to go through Agreed on all points, however I was trying to point out that by all appearances the Democrats don't care about voter anger, one might call it "Kamikaze Politics" if one didn't know any better. | 
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But I don't think we're going to be able to elminate employer coverage immediately.
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Quote: Originally Posted by PLYMCO_PILGRIM Martha Coakley interview
This is a fascinating interview of Martha Coakley this morning on a local TV station, focusing mostly on health care. Note how Martha Coakley dismisses the concerns that voters have about health care by claiming the voters are too “unfocused,” don’t really understand this issues involved, etc.
In particular, watch her adamant response to the question about the fact that 61 percent of voters in the Suffolk poll don’t think we can afford government-run health care. “Are they wrong?” the interviewer asks.
“They ARE wrong,” Coakley practically shouts—it’s her most passionate moment in the interview. She then suggests the issue is too “complicated” for the voters to grasp. She also shows she has no idea how health care works, erroneously claiming (among other things) that more medical screenings will save money. As everyone who has covered this issue knows, more screenings mean MORE money and higher costs (it’s that crazy “supply and demand” thing, Martha).
Don’t believe me? Here’s what the CBO had to say about it: "Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness."
They can also save lives, so it may be good policy. But claiming preventative care will cut costs shows you don’t know what you’re talking about.
So once again we’ve got an elitist, establishment liberal calling everyone else stupid, while demonstrating that she doesn’t understand even the most basic elements of ObamaCare.
Keep talking, Martha. You’re the best friend Scott Brown ever had.
She proceeds to reiterate Martha Says You’re Not Smart Enough To Understand Health Care : The Natural Truth
I've listened to Graham way way way too much to trust that link. Yep. I'm proudly being a source snob because I know him too well. Is there a transcript of the full interview? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CurveLight
Quote: Originally Posted by PLYMCO_PILGRIM Martha Coakley interview
This is a fascinating interview of Martha Coakley this morning on a local TV station, focusing mostly on health care. Note how Martha Coakley dismisses the concerns that voters have about health care by claiming the voters are too “unfocused,” don’t really understand this issues involved, etc.
In particular, watch her adamant response to the question about the fact that 61 percent of voters in the Suffolk poll don’t think we can afford government-run health care. “Are they wrong?” the interviewer asks.
“They ARE wrong,” Coakley practically shouts—it’s her most passionate moment in the interview. She then suggests the issue is too “complicated” for the voters to grasp. She also shows she has no idea how health care works, erroneously claiming (among other things) that more medical screenings will save money. As everyone who has covered this issue knows, more screenings mean MORE money and higher costs (it’s that crazy “supply and demand” thing, Martha).
Don’t believe me? Here’s what the CBO had to say about it: "Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness."
They can also save lives, so it may be good policy. But claiming preventative care will cut costs shows you don’t know what you’re talking about.
So once again we’ve got an elitist, establishment liberal calling everyone else stupid, while demonstrating that she doesn’t understand even the most basic elements of ObamaCare.
Keep talking, Martha. You’re the best friend Scott Brown ever had.
She proceeds to reiterate Martha Says You’re Not Smart Enough To Understand Health Care : The Natural Truth
I've listened to Graham way way way too much to trust that link. Yep. I'm proudly being a source snob because I know him too well. Is there a transcript of the full interview? Martha Coakley interview
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Quote: Originally Posted by LibocalypseNow Nobody understands the massive Democrat health care boondoggle. Fellow Democrats like Coakley don't even understand it. That's the real problem. Oh well,they probably wont read it before voting on it anyway. The voters aren't the problem. The Democrats are.
Oh please. Both Parties are umbilical cord deep inside of us all to gouge as much as possible. We voters are the problem because we're too lazy and selfish to work together so we draw lines in the sand and throw marshmallows and somehow at the end of the day create the illusion we're doing something. We're so fucked up with double standards we will send an 18 year old 6,000 miles away from home, give him/her automatic weapons and grenades and have them kill other people but if they come home on leave and have a beer they get thrown in jail. Who the fuck can make sense of that? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CurveLight
Quote: Originally Posted by LibocalypseNow Nobody understands the massive Democrat health care boondoggle. Fellow Democrats like Coakley don't even understand it. That's the real problem. Oh well,they probably wont read it before voting on it anyway. The voters aren't the problem. The Democrats are.
Oh please. Both Parties are umbilical cord deep inside of us all to gouge as much as possible. We voters are the problem because we're too lazy and selfish to work together so we draw lines in the sand and throw marshmallows and somehow at the end of the day create the illusion we're doing something. We're so fucked up with double standards we will send an 18 year old 6,000 miles away from home, give him/her automatic weapons and grenades and have them kill other people but if they come home on leave and have a beer they get thrown in jail. Who the fuck can make sense of that? Certainly not you, not with that little rant.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Annie
Quote: Originally Posted by CurveLight
Quote: Originally Posted by LibocalypseNow Nobody understands the massive Democrat health care boondoggle. Fellow Democrats like Coakley don't even understand it. That's the real problem. Oh well,they probably wont read it before voting on it anyway. The voters aren't the problem. The Democrats are.
Oh please. Both Parties are umbilical cord deep inside of us all to gouge as much as possible. We voters are the problem because we're too lazy and selfish to work together so we draw lines in the sand and throw marshmallows and somehow at the end of the day create the illusion we're doing something. We're so fucked up with double standards we will send an 18 year old 6,000 miles away from home, give him/her automatic weapons and grenades and have them kill other people but if they come home on leave and have a beer they get thrown in jail. Who the fuck can make sense of that? Certainly not you, not with that little rant. 
If it may please Your Highness I bow with full humility and utter vulnerability if you would be so kind as to share just the slightest drip of your wisdom. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CurveLight
Quote: Originally Posted by Annie
Quote: Originally Posted by CurveLight
Oh please. Both Parties are umbilical cord deep inside of us all to gouge as much as possible. We voters are the problem because we're too lazy and selfish to work together so we draw lines in the sand and throw marshmallows and somehow at the end of the day create the illusion we're doing something. We're so fucked up with double standards we will send an 18 year old 6,000 miles away from home, give him/her automatic weapons and grenades and have them kill other people but if they come home on leave and have a beer they get thrown in jail. Who the fuck can make sense of that? Certainly not you, not with that little rant. 
If it may please Your Highness I bow with full humility and utter vulnerability if you would be so kind as to share just the slightest drip of your wisdom. Yes, when you can't or won't respond to the post, move along. There is no way to improve your rant as it was nonsensical from the onset.
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