'Fight them over there vs. over here' a false choice

Iraq had the 5th largest military in the world at the time and was a threat to his neighbors. He attacked two of them. Basing what you think Arab countries would do on what Iran did is not applying reality to your thinking. Turkey is the only semi-Arab nation that has a strong military. Saddam could easily have rolled down the Gulf of Arabia and occupied the Arab states one at a time, at his leisure.

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Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.

Monday morning quarterbacking us usually 100% correct.

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Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.

"Couldn't even defeat Iran".

I love it when people who have no historical knowledge say idiotic things like that. If Iran was such a push over, believe me, it wouldn't be run by wild eyed lunatics today.

Or at least...it would be run by different wild-eyed lunatics today.

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If you did your homework you would know WW2 was a setup as well.
OMG OMG Britney shaves her papaya !!!Idiots.

All wars are set up by somebody.

Doesn't mean you should let your people be butchered and your country invaded. Nor does it mean you should stop standing up for human rights.

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However, I would argue that sanctions that only hurt the populace of a country and dropping bombs that kill civilians aren't right, and we shouldn't be surprised when people are angry about it.

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"Nonviolence does not mean non-action. Nonviolence means we act with love and compassion. The moment we stop acting, we undermine the principle of nonviolence." – Thich Nhat Hanh

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." – Voltaire

False premise. The bombs don't get dropped until we get attacked, and they are given fair warning.

They attack us, they threaten to wipe us out and swear (and I believe them, just look at the centuries we've been dealing with them) they will continue to try to eradicate non-believers, or bring them into bondage. They are given the opportunity to evacuate and they choose not to.

There's a difference between being good and right, and being weak and foolish. They are not one and the same thing. Neither is being good and right synonomous with refusing to defend oneself or stand up for the weak and vulnerable.

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A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

No disrespect taken, I have absolutely no problem with differing opinions.

Saddam was wrong for invading Kuwait, but I don't see it as being right for our own government to plunder the American taxpayers so that they can play world police. I also don't see it as being right for the government to rape the Constitution by putting our troops in harms way through undeclared wars.

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"Nonviolence does not mean non-action. Nonviolence means we act with love and compassion. The moment we stop acting, we undermine the principle of nonviolence." – Thich Nhat Hanh

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." – Voltaire

We do not only bomb if we are attacked first.

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"Nonviolence does not mean non-action. Nonviolence means we act with love and compassion. The moment we stop acting, we undermine the principle of nonviolence." – Thich Nhat Hanh

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." – Voltaire

Sure thing, dude. Reach behind you, grab the tinfoil helmet and put it on your grape. See how the voices stop?

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She helped me with my suitcase, She stands before my eyes
Driving me to the airport, And to the friendly skies.
Going through security I held her for so long.
She finally looked at me in love, And she was gone.
Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.

What's your point? I'm not surprised. I don't give a damn. If you're that concerned, you might want to think about getting rid of your leader.

Like I'm sure a LOT of Americans are thinking right now.

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Driving me to the airport, And to the friendly skies.
Going through security I held her for so long.
She finally looked at me in love, And she was gone.
Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.

You didn't do your homework. The US was piad in gold, by Kuwait for our part in the First Gulf War. We even got rela gold Kuwait Liberation Medals the government took away from us and replaced with crap.

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She helped me with my suitcase, She stands before my eyes
Driving me to the airport, And to the friendly skies.
Going through security I held her for so long.
She finally looked at me in love, And she was gone.
Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.

You should give a damn. When people are angry about our murderous policies in their country they may decide to attack us, ala 9/11. But to say that people should get rid of their leader if they don't want us to put sanctions on them or bomb them is ridiculous. For one, we're responsible for our actions. Secondly, it's not always easy to get rid of dictators. We shouldn't be in the business of telling people that if they don't risk their and their families lives to try and overthrow a brutal dictator that we're going to bomb them and put sanctions on them.

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"Nonviolence does not mean non-action. Nonviolence means we act with love and compassion. The moment we stop acting, we undermine the principle of nonviolence." – Thich Nhat Hanh

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." – Voltaire

I hadn't heard that. Did they pay all of our expenses?

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"Nonviolence does not mean non-action. Nonviolence means we act with love and compassion. The moment we stop acting, we undermine the principle of nonviolence." – Thich Nhat Hanh

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." – Voltaire

Like Kev said, many of us suspected it all along. Confirmation is just a bonus. Poor Dubya, his "legacy" gets dimmer and dimmer.