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06-12-2008, 04:04 AM
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In the vein of several of our more esteemed members I thought I would properly point out ahead of time that since the US Government and Military have provided video coverage and provided their side of events, we should all just assume they are all liars. US releases video of clash along Afghan border - Yahoo! News
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06-12-2008, 05:23 AM
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Why would anyone assume anything but that in that fog of war, friendly fire happened, gunny?
Shit happens when the bullets are flying.
Aren't we all aware of that?
Wouldn't the Pakistanis be in a better position to know that they took casualties than the people who were firing upon them?
Mistakes happen.
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06-12-2008, 10:59 AM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | No disagreement with you on this one. Until Pakistan can control the militants running back and forth, this will continue to happen. The military has a huge job in dealing with these strikes. This will continue until there is leadership in Pakistan that gets tough with these guys. Good Thread!
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06-12-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by editec  The fog of war.
Why would anyone assume anything but that in that fog of war, friendly fire happened, gunny?
Shit happens when the bullets are flying.
Aren't we all aware of that?
Wouldn't the Pakistanis be in a better position to know that they took casualties than the people who were firing upon them?
Mistakes happen.
Apologise to our allies for the problem, and move on. | Did you read what the pakistanis claimed?
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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters
I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
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06-12-2008, 12:01 PM
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Did you read what the pakistanis claimed?
| Yes, I did.
Did you?
The Pakis claimed that the Gorparai post in the Mohmand frontier region on was bombed.
Americans say their bombs fell on the intended targets.
US videos from drones show where four of the reported dozen bombs dropped during that action.
By my count that means that we know that four of the twelve bombs dropped did not hit Paki forces.
What about the other eight?
No video for where those landed?
Apparently not.
Fog of war, Gunny.
Shit happens.
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06-12-2008, 03:50 PM
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Pakistan airstrike video may be incomplete, Pentagon says
Grainy video footage released by the U.S. military may not provide a complete picture of what happened in an airstrike that Pakistan says killed 11 of its soldiers, the Pentagon conceded Thursday...
But a U.S. Air Force document indicates bombs were dropped on buildings near the border, and Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman conceded there may have been another strike that occurred outside the view of the drone's camera...
| Pakistan airstrike video may be incomplete, Pentagon says - CNN.com
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08-26-2008, 10:44 PM
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Pat Tillman's have there been? |
08-26-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredgysgt in The Vein Of Several Of Our More Esteemed Members I Thought I Would Properly Point Out Ahead Of Time That Since The Us Government And Military Have Provided Video Coverage And Provided Their Side Of Events, We Should All Just Assume They Are All Liars. us Releases Video Of Clash Along Afghan Border - Yahoo! News |
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08-26-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dramaqueen16 Pat Tillman's have there been? | Plenty. On every side of every war that's ever been fought. Got a point? Or just trying to stir shit?
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08-27-2008, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CA95380 ? ? | Maybe cause the link is from almost 3 MONTHS ago and has been moved?
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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
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Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
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I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
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08-27-2008, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Maybe cause the link is from almost 3 MONTHS ago and has been moved? |
Ahh .... I didnt check the date. My bad. At least I know how to admit my error when I have screwed up.  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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