A quarter of a million vets:


Time magazine Managing Editor Richard Stengel discussed a new Pentagon report that says “1 in 5 American servicemen and women who have been in Iraq are coming back with brain injuries.” Stengel called it the “real toll” of the war, adding that “the legacy of that will last all of our lifetimes and it’s incalculable.”

In total, according to Stengel, “more than 250,000 people” are affected by “mild traumatic brain injuries”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ76v...kprogress.org/

Well, yeah ... cuz everyone knows managing editors of magazines are experts on brain injuries.

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So does that mean he's not allowed to discussthe pentagon's report? I would think we'd all be concerned about this.

Ah well...

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51 days left http://www.backwardsbush.com/

Those are the numbers from a pentagon report.

I wonder how many WW1 and WW2 combat vets had "brain" injuries? They got shelled heavily. Ohh wait, we can not blame Bush for them so not important.

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Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

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-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

how stupid is that because somthing happened 60 -80 years ago this is not a issue now .where is the logic in that?

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Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

It is called war. Pretending things that happen in war are suddenly new and somehow worse now then in the past is a joke.

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-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Actually, it's because advancements in field medicine let people who would have died from their injuries in WWI and WWII live. This leaves us with much more severely injured people.

So, either these issues can discussed or... you can whine and use it as an opportunity to make it about "bush bashing".

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"Trust none of what you hear And less of what you see" Springsteen

When the Founding Fathers protected our right to free speech, I think that meant we were supposed to use it.

Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was the world's most unhinged lunatic. He's now dead. So that moves Ann Coulter up to first place - David Letterman

O, when she is angry she is keen and shrewd; / She was a vixen when she went to school, / And though she be but little, she is fierce. — Shakespeare

51 days left http://www.backwardsbush.com/

Um, no! I think you'll find it wasn't a "problem" back then because it was frowned upon to show any emotion regarding the psychological state of your mind after a war (you recall the famous incident with Patton when he haranged a shell-shocked soldier?? While he was reprimanded, most soldiers agreed with his actions at the time when the PC police were not around). Times change. We are more in touch with reality! No more Stiff Upper Lip crap.These days people want resolution...

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I know it's weird, but even with TIME magazine, there could be problems with how they are quoting? Now if it said, '1 in 5 injured American servicemen and women in Iraq are coming back with brain injuries', it might seem more logical.

It's just so hard to contemplate such a trusted news source leaving out a word.

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Actually, it is important. The greater problem is the trauma caused by war. Or maybe that type of information is not important to the men who decide that we must be in a war in the first place.

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A quarter million sounds so much better though. Didn't you know? Just donning a helmet and appearing in Iraq causes brain damage, ask Taoman.

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-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Those unwilling or unable to defend themselves will find they have no rights and no freedom.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Go ahead Taomon make some ignorant statement about how you are free and have rights. Ignoring the fact the rest of us protect your sorry ass and ensure you have those freedoms and rights.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

the "support the troops" rhetoric from bush lovers here, is touching.

There wasn't a single partisan comment in the first thread. Only facts.