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09-13-2009, 09:40 AM
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By kombiz Sunday Sep 13, 2009 8:00am 
Quote: Originally Posted by The Article I apparently missed the largest flash mob in American history today, and it took place just a few blocks from my house. Michelle Malkin and the redstaters have been abuzz about how there were more than two million people marching on Washington today, (that would make it bigger than even the inauguration) but all anyone who wasn't a right-winger saw today was 30,000 to 60,000 right-wingers bused in from around the country.
Here's what the organizers themselves told us to expect. Dick Armey told the right-wing Newsmax that they're generating hundreds of responses in interest to the 9/12 March. The tea party patriots told us that they were expecting as many as one million to turn out and that they had permits for a one million man march on Washington.
After reading breathlessly on the twitter feeds of several right-wingers that millions of people were descending on the capital, Michelle Malkin on her blog estimated two million people. I went up to take pictures of crazy signs, of which there were many, many, many, many samples.
Now, there were real people at the rally. At certain points organizers for different county Republican parties would use a bullhorn to try to round up their members back to the buses for the trip back to Pennsylvania and Virginia. But one would think that after six months of organizing by Fox News and local Republican parties, the 9/12 protests could get more than thirty to sixty thousand people to come out to D.C. After all, there's apparently a groundswell of anger at the President. If nothing else, there's got to be more than 30,000 Republicans who live around the DC area.
I wanted to provide some perspective about the difference between thirty thousand people and one million people. For reference, the teabaggers were mostly in front of the Capitol and around the Capitol's reflecting pool. For anyone not familiar with DC, they were directly to the east of 3rd Street in Washington.
For reference, I crossed 3rd Street and took a picture facing west from the Capitol at the Washington Monument, similar to some of the crowd shots we'd seen after the inauguration. Here's the difference between the teabaggers' protest today vs. President Obama's inaguration crowd, which included anywhere from 1 million to 1.5 million people. So, what happened to all that grassroots anger? How I missed the 2 million man teabagging flash mob today | Crooks and Liars 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cold Fusion38 
Quote: Originally Posted by Si modo
Quote: Originally Posted by Cold Fusion38 The thing is that these people with their signs DIRECTELY attacking Obama that have NOTHING to do with the "true" issues that they are protesting(would mean a lot more if they had showed up during the last eight years) .... Let's see the source which indicates that these people did not protest the war, for example. I'd like to know on what you base such a conclusion.
I base my conclusion on the SIGNS they are carrying!! .... What signs that were carried at both cause you to conclude that there was no intersection of the two sets. Get specific. Quote: .... Read the freaking SIGNS and then tell me that they are protesting health care/ taxes. .... I did; most were. Quote: .... And if you could explain where all these "two million" people were during the BUSH admin the one that set our civil liberties and world standing back about 60 years while adding $5 TRILLION to our debt that would be worth reading. Many, perhaps most, were pissed off with the administration, that's where.
Now, source? All I see is your gut feel and that gut feel doesn't even make much logical sense.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Si modo
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL .... Fire and police say 30,000 is being "generous.' .... Source? Shuster: "Freedomworks says their dc demonstration attracted 30,000 people. Park police official says that is being 'generous.' " | Media Matters for America
Its funny how the Iraq war got practically NO media coverage and the protests were ongoing and they DWARFED each and every or any Tea-Bag party you can produce.
Yet, these minuscule RWer screaming schmucks get constant coverage over their false protests and faux outrage.
Liberal Media at work huh?
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Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL Mark, that's from a guy's Twitter account. (I bet you knew better than to try a Twitter account as a source with me.)
Cheers.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Si modo
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL Mark, that's from a guy's Twitter account. (I bet you knew better than to try a Twitter account as a source with me.)
Cheers. That "guy" is David Shuster, a professional news reporter.
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Quote: Originally Posted by RadiomanATL Anyone trying to compare the two events, in any way, is a moron.
And that includes you Marco. And that includes anyone that isn't aware that the neo con morons had been working on this protest since early in the year. At least 8 months. How long was Obamas inauguration planned and implemented? Where were all the wack wing celebrities? 800,000 vist DC every week. 80,000??? There were ten times that number looking at the sights.
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Quote: Originally Posted by RadiomanATL
Quote: Originally Posted by JakeStarkey Yes, radio, they do compare, and you are wrong. The facts and the logical interpretation therein prove it. No, they do not.
1) The inauguration was planned for months.
2) The inauguration was a first time in history kind of event
3) The inauguration was promoted, hyped and talked about, rightfully so, all over the media leading up to the event.
The protests yesterday had none of these factors in play.
If you leave out these facts from your equation, your interpretation will be faulty, and not at all logical.
The two do not compare. At all.
Not to mention (he said as he went ahead and mentioned it) --
the Inauguration was a one time event held in just one location on that one day.
The Tea Parties have been held all over and on many days and are still on-going.
The crowd comparison in those photos is pretty misleading even standing alone, for a number of reasons. But more to the point, the Tea Parties are not a stand-alone event.
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Hey, do you remember all the media coverage Cindy Sheehan got when she protested the war at a place called Crawford Texas?
Do you remember all the media coverage Cindy Sheehan got when she protested the war at a place called Martha's Vineyard?
At both protests, a sitting president was on vacation at the time. Which one did the media ignore? |
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Wasn't the 9-12 tea-bag party supposed to be THE end-all and be-all tea-bag protest to end all protests?
Weren't GB and FOXNews as well as the entire RW radio and media camp touting it as the march around Jericho?
What happened?
It was a BUST...face it RWers.
You lost. You lose. You're losers.
Case closed.
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Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL ....
You lost. You lose. You're losers.
Case closed. I'll have to remember this debate tactic. All I have to do is type something indicating that I win and the case is closed. Cool.
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Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL Not a stand-alone" event huh?
Wasn't the 9-12 tea-bag party supposed to be THE end-all and be-all tea-bag protest to end all protests?
Weren't GB and FOXNews as well as the entire RW radio and media camp touting it as the march around Jericho?
What happened?
It was a BUST...face it RWers.
You lost. You lose. You're losers.
Case closed.
IF the case is closed, the verdict is you just got your ass handed to you in a sack.
In deference to your ignorance, you can have the case reopened so you can try again (albeit vainly) to make a valid point.
The Washington DC event was not a stand alone. And the Tea Parties are far from over. And no, the DC protest was NEVER supposed to be "THE end-all and be-all tea-bag protest to end all protests?" Why do you think making crap like that up will assist you in your propaganda efforts? 
Quote: Originally Posted by you Weren't GB and FOXNews as well as the entire RW radio and media camp touting it as the march around Jericho? No. Again, you making crap up is simply not even marginally persuasive. It just ruins any hope you might ever have of obtaining credibility
Your false label that the event was a "bust" is more dishonesty from you. It was a success and that's why guys like you are here trying to make it look like a failure. If it had actually been beneath notice, you guys would not be trying so hard to employ the fallacy of ad hominem against it. You wouldn't be taking note of it and thus giving it even more publicity if it had never amounted to anything in the first place.
It is the fact that it was a huge success that has unmanned you loser libbies.
Try again, though. Feel free! 
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Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL
Quote: Originally Posted by Si modo
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL Mark, that's from a guy's Twitter account. (I bet you knew better than to try a Twitter account as a source with me.)
Cheers. That "guy" is David Shuster, a professional news reporter.
Thanks. He may be, but that does nothing to his credibility on estimating crowd numbers. I have to wonder about a 'professional news reporter' who can't even name a source. Your mileage varies on what you will question, obviously.
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Quote: Originally Posted by editec
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcATL Excellent way of comparing the crowds.
One presumes that these images were taken fairly?
That is to say both images were captured at the time when the crowds were gathered in their maximum numbers. I am not so sure, I have seen other pictures where that mall is packed full and protestors are filling the streets, still no officail count but even ABC a very liberal network estimated it at 1.2 million and some go as high as 2 million that picture you are showing is one that was early on, people were piling in there.
It's also all over the front page of my newspaper, so don't think for a minute that this is going to end, it's not, people, democrats and independents alike are sick and tired of the, spending on steroids, we have witnessed not just with the dems but repubs too.  | | |
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