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Old 10-25-2013, 05:33 PM
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Household income in 2014:

0% of poverty level

Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy:

None

Health Insurance premium in 2014 (for a silver plan, before tax credit):

$2,596 per year

You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:

$0 per year
(which covers 0% of the overall premium)

Amount you pay for the premium:

$2,596 per year
(which equals Infinity% of your household income and covers 100% of the overall premium)

Other Levels of Coverage

The premium amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You could purchase other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).

For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $2,152 per year (which is Infinity% of your household income). For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.

Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $6,350. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.

A Silver plan has an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
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Has anyone,anyone,from the administration,from the WH controlled media,the Obama followers here addressed the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are being dropped from their
coverage.

This was Obama's big selling point that if you had health care you would not be affected.

I'm listening as closely as I can without cable TV. I haven't heard anything. I am curious to say that least about how Obama will deal with it -- when he'll so much as mention the fact and when he'll talk about a remedy for the people whose lives he has thrown into turmoil.
Don't you know he knows nothing until he hears it on an approved maobama Pravda source. How many times has he said he learned about something on the news?

But even the approved Pravda sources are mentioning it!

He's having to do a lot of lalalala-ing to shut out the news.


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I will be happy to pay 10000 after my company drops me in 2015.

As with anything liberal they said affordable and exactly the opposite has occurred.
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Well, the Obamabots have to wait to get their lies , er, i mean talking points before they can respond.....


But once again, this is where we get to say:


We tried to tell you!
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Has anyone,anyone,from the administration,from the WH controlled media,the Obama followers here addressed the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are being dropped from their
coverage.

This was Obama's big selling point that if you had health care you would not be affected.

I'm listening as closely as I can without cable TV. I haven't heard anything. I am curious to say that least about how Obama will deal with it -- when he'll so much as mention the fact and when he'll talk about a remedy for the people whose lives he has thrown into turmoil.
Will once be enough? Please pay attention.

Nearly 15 million Americans ( commonly referenced ) have health insurance purchased on the individual market ( not employer based ). Many of these plans are ****ty and do not meet the minimum standards for consumer protection stipulated in the ACA.

If a person has one of these ****ty plans, their insurance company has or will send them a notice telling them that they must make a change in coverage. Some unscrupulous insurance providers are using these cancellation letters to scare consumers into buying costlier plans outside of the exchange. But...by law, the letter must tell the insured that they have the option of going on the exchange....which has a variety of plans...all of which are better quality plans than the one they currently have. In some cases, the plans on the exchange will cost a few bucks more.....but most people in this demographic will qualify for subsidies that bring the cost down.

In most cases, the insurance company that is sending the letter also has plans on the exchange which are very similar and have the same doctors, etc.

This is the consumer protection aspect of the law in action. It is a good thing.
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Has anyone,anyone,from the administration,from the WH controlled media,the Obama followers here addressed the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are being dropped from their
coverage.

This was Obama's big selling point that if you had health care you would not be affected.

I'm listening as closely as I can without cable TV. I haven't heard anything. I am curious to say that least about how Obama will deal with it -- when he'll so much as mention the fact and when he'll talk about a remedy for the people whose lives he has thrown into turmoil.
Will once be enough? Please pay attention.

Nearly 15 million Americans ( commonly referenced ) have health insurance purchased on the individual market ( not employer based ). Many of these plans are ****ty and do not meet the minimum standards for consumer protection stipulated in the ACA.

If a person has one of these ****ty plans, their insurance company has or will send them a notice telling them that they must make a change in coverage. Some unscrupulous insurance providers are using these cancellation letters to scare consumers into buying costlier plans outside of the exchange. But...by law, the letter must tell the insured that they have the option of going on the exchange....which has a variety of plans...all of which are better quality plans than the one they currently have. In some cases, the plans on the exchange will cost a few bucks more.....but most people in this demographic will qualify for subsidies that bring the cost down.

In most cases, the insurance company that is sending the letter also has plans on the exchange which are very similar and have the same doctors, etc.

This is the consumer protection aspect of the law in action. It is a good thing.
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Notice how hater dupes think lies and promises are same thing. IOW, a tribute to mindless PUB OBSTRUCTION AND BS FEAR MONGERING...A DISASTER AND DISGRACE...
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I'm listening as closely as I can without cable TV. I haven't heard anything. I am curious to say that least about how Obama will deal with it -- when he'll so much as mention the fact and when he'll talk about a remedy for the people whose lives he has thrown into turmoil.
Will once be enough? Please pay attention.

Nearly 15 million Americans ( commonly referenced ) have health insurance purchased on the individual market ( not employer based ). Many of these plans are ****ty and do not meet the minimum standards for consumer protection stipulated in the ACA.

If a person has one of these ****ty plans, their insurance company has or will send them a notice telling them that they must make a change in coverage. Some unscrupulous insurance providers are using these cancellation letters to scare consumers into buying costlier plans outside of the exchange. But...by law, the letter must tell the insured that they have the option of going on the exchange....which has a variety of plans...all of which are better quality plans than the one they currently have. In some cases, the plans on the exchange will cost a few bucks more.....but most people in this demographic will qualify for subsidies that bring the cost down.

In most cases, the insurance company that is sending the letter also has plans on the exchange which are very similar and have the same doctors, etc.

This is the consumer protection aspect of the law in action. It is a good thing.
*crickets*
If that person was OK with that insurance why is it not good enough. Because you libs say so.. And why do you think that insurance tripling is GOOD for a family. How are they supposed to feed their family . Yeah they can get an aspirin at the hospital but they cant eat for the month.
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and how does anyone know what is on the exchange when you cant even get on the damn thing
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Well, the Obamabots have to wait to get their lies , er, i mean talking points before they can respond.....


But once again, this is where we get to say:


We tried to tell you!
Tried to tell them before this magnificent narcissist was elected the first time...and as they saw what he did the first time? They wanted MORE incompetence!

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My friend's insurance was good enough for her to be able to afford the pain management therapy she needed. And now thanks to the ACA, it's not. After the new deductibles she cannot afford the therapy so she is living with the pain.

Whatever new things the new coverage will provide her with do not impress her.

She cannot get the help she actually needs.

This is not better quality.

And it is not affordable.



Another friend couldn't get knee surgery until she made a down payment on it because of the new healthcare delivery practices hospitals are having to adopt to prepare for the realities of the ACA. So where in the past her insurance would have paid for her knee surgery and she could have made arrangements to pay afterwards in a reasonably timely fashion for whatever wasn't covered, now she had to wait until she could pay a significant amount up front. Her hospital was so worried about the losses they're going to take from people who can't pay that they're having to make sure they take no risks and require up front payments from people with jobs.



But, hey, at least she got to keep her doctor.




Now that we've talked about lost policies, increased premiums and out of pocket payments, and changes in delivery of healthcare, let's talk about lost jobs or reduced hours.

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So much bull****.
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Yes it is BS, for once you have it right....What did Obama say over and over and over?

If you like your plan you get to keep your plan....


And here comes the Obamabots telling us he didn't lie......

Bye Bye ACA......................
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Has anyone,anyone,from the administration,from the WH controlled media,the Obama followers here addressed the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are being dropped from their
coverage.

This was Obama's big selling point that if you had health care you would not be affected.

I'm listening as closely as I can without cable TV. I haven't heard anything. I am curious to say that least about how Obama will deal with it -- when he'll so much as mention the fact and when he'll talk about a remedy for the people whose lives he has thrown into turmoil.
Will once be enough? Please pay attention.

Nearly 15 million Americans ( commonly referenced ) have health insurance purchased on the individual market ( not employer based ). Many of these plans are ****ty and do not meet the minimum standards for consumer protection stipulated in the ACA.

If a person has one of these ****ty plans, their insurance company has or will send them a notice telling them that they must make a change in coverage. Some unscrupulous insurance providers are using these cancellation letters to scare consumers into buying costlier plans outside of the exchange. But...by law, the letter must tell the insured that they have the option of going on the exchange....which has a variety of plans...all of which are better quality plans than the one they currently have. In some cases, the plans on the exchange will cost a few bucks more.....but most people in this demographic will qualify for subsidies that bring the cost down.

In most cases, the insurance company that is sending the letter also has plans on the exchange which are very similar and have the same doctors, etc.

This is the consumer protection aspect of the law in action. It is a good thing.
Yes, because it's absolutely vital that men purchase obstetrical and gynecological coverage.
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So much bull****.

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