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07-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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Nope. Not acting like some kind of psychologist or even attempting it. Quote: If you truly feel this way about child porn, be it real or virtual, I think you might need some serious kind of professional help. Yes, it seems you are. Quote: I do, however, know the difference between what I feel is right and wrong. That's the problem with today's world. Often times a very poor moral issue is pushed to the front by just boarding on legal verses illegal. I have to disagree with you. Congratulations on knowing your own feelings. Quote: It's my opinion, and my opinion only - anybody who likes child porn, acting on it or not acting on it, is a sick puppy. Sick, perhaps. A creep, no. Again, people cannot help their own desires. Quote: Any desire for child porn is not normal behavior. Define normal. Quote: I had a child that was molested. The only reason that person is still alive today is because the police got to him before I did. I don't know if I would have killed him or not but I do know that I would have hurt him pretty badly and he would have been hospitalized. He's still in prison and will be there for a long time to come. Unless you can address this subject from experience, I think you need to rethink your position concerning child porn. You don't have a clue as to what you're so boldly defending. Try remove your emotions from your rational thought. Then you might actually be able to come up with an intelligent statement on this. And yes, I have had experience with this issue, my girlfriend was molested. I've also known enough people that have been molested that I can often tell if someone was or not. Its really, really fucked up.
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07-07-2009, 12:38 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by strollingbones i am sticking with.....no ...to it all....no freebie child porno even in anime.....what about that brutal rape game they just refused to release it was anime still some sick shit Why should anime child porn be illegal? Tis literally just marks on paper (aka drawings).
And if you mean rapelay the developers never intended to release it in the states (and in fact no official English version of the game exists.
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07-07-2009, 12:51 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba I love the mindset that allows that the things that are really bad and criminal should be made legal to make the problem go away.
Kinda like, "murder is a problem..so let's make it legal to murder babies."
Yeah, that's done a lot of good. By all means, make it okay to create and distribute child porn to encourage and alleviate all pressure on the freaks who victimize kids. Cognitive fail.
The point would be to lessen the number of kids who get molested. Or do you think thats not a valid goal?
Hmmm..explain to me how making it acceptable to pretend to kill and molest children will reduce the numbers of children being molested and killed.
As I said, it's all part of the mindset that in order to get rid of the problem, you just eliminate the kids. Or in this particular case, since we have a terrible problem with porn...make it legal! Voila! No more porn crimes!
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07-07-2009, 12:53 PM
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Rep Power: 212 | | | The cognitive fail here is that if people are allowed to freely access and create child porn they will be less inclined to indulge in child molestation.
Nope. That's why convicted sex offenders are carefully monitored with regards to their porn access. Accessing porn, whether it's real or virtual, TRIGGERS the desire to attack children. It doesn't make it go away.
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07-07-2009, 01:03 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba
Nope. That's why convicted sex offenders are carefully monitored with regards to their porn access. Accessing porn, whether it's real or virtual, TRIGGERS the desire to attack children. It doesn't make it go away. Yeah, they say the same thing about regular porn and rape, there's no proof for that one either.
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07-07-2009, 01:06 PM
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Rep Power: 212 | | | We're talking about people who rape kids. They're a different breed, and there's plenty of evidence for it. Interview a child molester someday.
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"In a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you."
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07-07-2009, 01:11 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba We're talking about people who rape kids. They're a different breed, and there's plenty of evidence for it. Interview a child molester someday. No we're only talking about people who want to look at virtual child porn, it's a lot bigger in Japan and they're rape rate is a lot lower.
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07-07-2009, 01:14 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba How Pornography Harms Children
"In a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you." What's the percent of individuals who look at virtual child porn and then molest kids? That's the real number you need to look at. These stats may only show that child molesters are attracted to pornography not that it's influenced them.
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07-07-2009, 01:24 PM
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07-07-2009, 01:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by RodISHI Hem, looks like three pedo posters that all agree it is fine and dandy to dream about sex with little ones.
GOOD for UTAH! I knew those Mormons were good for something. Oh great it looks like we have a fascist in our mix who wants the government to prosecute thought crime.
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07-07-2009, 01:30 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Father Time
Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba How Pornography Harms Children
"In a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you." What's the percent of individuals who look at virtual child porn and then molest kids? That's the real number you need to look at. These stats may only show that child molesters are attracted to pornography not that it's influenced them. No it's not, fucker. You want to look at convicted pedophiles and study THEM to best learn to prevent attacks on children.
Why is this so hard for people without morals and no sense of decency to understand?
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba
Quote: Originally Posted by Father Time
Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba How Pornography Harms Children
"In a study of convicted child molesters, 77 percent of those who molested boys and 87 percent of those who molested girls admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes.iii Besides stimulating the perpetrator, pornography facilitates child molestation in several ways. For example, pedophiles use pornographic photos to demonstrate to their victims what they want them to do. They also use them to arouse a child or to lower a child's inhibitions and communicate to the unsuspecting child that a particular sexual activity is okay: "This person is enjoying it; so will you." What's the percent of individuals who look at virtual child porn and then molest kids? That's the real number you need to look at. These stats may only show that child molesters are attracted to pornography not that it's influenced them. No it's not, fucker. You want to look at convicted pedophiles and study THEM to best learn to prevent attacks on children.
Why is this so hard for people without morals and no sense of decency to understand? Well your study certainly doesn't prove that the porn influenced them.
It reminds me of an argument that a lot of school shooters played violent video games therefore it caused them to go on shooting sprees.
This of course ignores the HUGE number of people who play such games and don't do anything violent and it ignores the possibility that naturally violent people might just be attracted to violent games.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Father Time
Quote: Originally Posted by RodISHI Hem, looks like three pedo posters that all agree it is fine and dandy to dream about sex with little ones.
GOOD for UTAH! I knew those Mormons were good for something. Oh great it looks like we have a fascist in our mix who wants the government to prosecute thought crime. Having child porn in your possession is an act not a thought. Good for UTAH! |  | |
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