Don't tase me bro!

Why should I resign? I didn't hire me.. If someone chose to hire me, and then not fire me after I got my speeding tickets, that's up to them.

If I choose not to hire you because I see you drove illegally, that's also up to me. I can simply state that driving is a requirement of your job from time to time.

It's pretty much everyone's experience. The trends hold true pretty much across the board and I worked with loss prevention and security design for a long time. It's not hard to know where the stealing occurs or who is doing it. We know that. It's how to address it. Like the free candy. Not only does your boss look and feel good about giving you the candy, it's better than having people stuffing handfuls into their pockets. They'll take more than they can eat everytime. Company parties and events are great too. For places with alcohol, you should treat your staff to an open bar a few times every year. If you don't, they'll steal ALL YEAR. People are going to steal. It's all about how much.

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

Happens all the time. Most of the time it's hard to prove who did it. You can even "know" but you can't prove. So the difficulties of firing and unemployment are weighed. Generally, there will be a ton of money spent on equipment, which was great for me, cameras, anti theft, cipher locks, etc. Even so, in high volume atmospheres, skimming is relatively easy. Golden Coral was one with some management problems and skimming. Too many managers with access. And relatively small shortages of $40, $50, can go on for a while before the pattern emerges. And then you figure someone has been taking several hundred a month. Even larger, BB&T doesn't flag it's tellers until they reach $10,000 shortage in a year or $7,500 in consecutive years.

It is NOT easy. If it were, there wouldn't be a multi billion dollar industry to combat it.

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

I probably have paid for in fines for traffic violations then most normal people, probably more than you. But you know what it is my own damn fault. They make the amount of the fines very well know and if you still do it you only have yourself to blame. They have to pay to jail these dumb ass criminals one way or another. When the seat belt fine went up and they could pull you over for not wearing one, guess what I started putting on my seatbelt.

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I HATE coconut. Not the flavor, but the consistency.---Tallahassee

Sure, it comes in increments. If you'll wear a seat belt in your own car or pay the fine, it's not too far away to start fining Dis for smoking on the front porch. Then when they need more revenue to build more prisons to hold the repeat seat belt offenders who were such terrible criminals that they lost their lost license and got arrested, they'll start fining you for not brushing your teeth. They'll devise a little hand held thingy to test for plaque. It's for your own good, you know. Your teeth are important to your health, don't you see/ We have to do this. It only makes sense.

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

maybe they should start fining people for wearing tin foil hats.

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I HATE coconut. Not the flavor, but the consistency.---Tallahassee

Maybe so. Funny thing is, you don't have to back up very far in time to get the same response about a law requiring one to wear a seat belt. The mere thought of such a law would have been outrageous a mere 50 years ago. And what about those speed limits? Wasn't that a hoot? People went nuts when they lowered speed limits. Said it was all about revenue. And then, years later, they were raised again, Funny thing, the cops went nuts then crying about the lost revenue.

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

Do you know how much it costs the tax payers to scrape someone off the pavement because they were not wearing their seat belt? Plus they have to make these laws because people are too stupid to make the right decision.

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I HATE coconut. Not the flavor, but the consistency.---Tallahassee

And wouldn't you know it, Insurance Companies sponsored studies came to very different conclusions about speed limits and the associated risk and of course, fines and premium adjustments. Now, of course, the insurance companies are only concerned about your safety right? They wouldn't be wanting you to get tickets, would they? They wouldn't lobby your legislators to keep speeding fines up, disregarding every valid study regarding safety and speed would they? They wouldn't do that for money would they? They wouldn't encourage the police to make criminals out of us for the purpose of profit....would they?

Niave people about this place.



Study: Higher Interstate Speed Limits are Safe

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

Check it out. GEICO provides Speed Guns to law enforcement. Those good people are so conserned about our safety! I think I'll switch my policy!




Rocky Mountain Collegian - The real purpose of speed limits

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

Florida gets 35 million dollars from the Feds just to make their seatbelt law a primary infraction. They got PAID to pass a law so they can get PAID some more.

Of course, Charlie says the revenue and the 35 million bonus is only the incentive. The real reason is because he loves each and everyone of us that drive in Florida.

So, uh, Charlie, where has this love been? You didn't love us enough to do this until you were offered 35million?



Florida signs new primary seat belt law, gets $35 million from gov't

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

Ok, so let me get this straight.

A policeman is hanging out in a church parking lot, no one asks him to leave.

He randomly strolls up to a guy sitting in a car who has been there longer than he has.

The officer out of the blue asks to see the fellas proof of insurance.

(Already this story is so thin, you can see thru it).

What do you know, what are the chances, this guys got no insurance, the cops one for one....he should pay the lottery.

The pastor walks out, confronts the officer, a conflageration ensues.

The policeman states the pastor pushed him.

Witnesses state the pastor did not push him.

The pastor flees into the church to "get witnesses" (so who the hell are the witnesses who state the pastor didn't push the cop???)

The pastor emerges with 30 to 40 folks in tow.

The police once again out of the blue with no warning pepper spray everyone and tase the pastor for no reason.


(and now back to our regularly scheduled reality)

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Officer Smiley says his partner was talking to the guy in the parking lot.

That is a strange bit of an opening for Officer Smiley. Normally, I would expect officer Smilety to say "we initiated a traffic stop" or some such. But the quote says they were in the parking lot "talking" to someone. He didn't say they were perfroming a stop.

During the conversation, the tags get called in off the vehicle. Calling in tags from a random parking lot isn't that strange. Cops do it all the time, looking for fines.

The car comes back uninsured.

It's sketchy. Why were they there? Was it a stop? Or was it a fine fishing expedition? Did they see this car on the highway? If they did, fine. He gets gets the ticket. If they didn't, another story.

In any case, they are on private property. If the Church has no regulation regarding insurance for cars operating on it's property, the Pastor has every right to ask the police to leave his property. If they were not in pursuit and not invited, they have no business there. There was no actionable criminal activity. Just a car without insurance. Perfectly legal on private property.

The rest of the story would be nice. The key is WHY they entered private property. If they don't have the right reason, anything that happened subsequently is their fault. We call it trespassing and cops are not above the law.

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And just exactly what is the PURPOSE of that meeting.... do you know? Does anyone know? No, they don't. So there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. - Pale Rider

If cities have no jurisdiction on private property, how do they enforce law like no RV's or commercial vehicle ordinances, mowing regulations, building regulations.

Another example...in the city of Springfield, MO it is illegal to have an unregistered vehicle in your driveway unless it is covered.

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