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"Some men see things as they are and say 'why'; I dream things that never were and say "why not?" -Robert F. Kennedy

"Too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of other human beings" - Robert F. Kennedy

"But we can perhaps remember, even if only for a time, that those who live with us, are our brothers. They share with us the same short moment of life. They seek as we do, nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness. Winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can. Surely this bond of common fate, this bond of common goal; can begin to teach us something. Surely we can learn, at least to look at those around us, as fellow men. Surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us, and to become in our own heart's brothers and countrymen once again." - Robert F. Kennedy

Kind of sick making. Does that mean all those charges against people giving aid to terrorists are bogus as well?

Wow ...

I wonder why that's the case when Libya had to pay for the plane crash of years ago....

I guess Brother Bandar holds more sway. I'm soooo shocked.

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When the Founding Fathers protected our right to free speech, I think that meant we were supposed to use it.
69 days left http://www.backwardsbush.com/

Could it possibly that they had better evidence against Libya ? naaa

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"Some men eventually stumble over the truth but they usually pick themselves up and walk on as if nothing ever happened."
-Winston Churchill

"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
-George Bernard Shaw

Sounds like daddy Bush made some phone calls!

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"Some men see things as they are and say 'why'; I dream things that never were and say "why not?" -Robert F. Kennedy

"Too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of other human beings" - Robert F. Kennedy

"But we can perhaps remember, even if only for a time, that those who live with us, are our brothers. They share with us the same short moment of life. They seek as we do, nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness. Winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can. Surely this bond of common fate, this bond of common goal; can begin to teach us something. Surely we can learn, at least to look at those around us, as fellow men. Surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us, and to become in our own heart's brothers and countrymen once again." - Robert F. Kennedy

You know what they say about kissing cousins!

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"Some men see things as they are and say 'why'; I dream things that never were and say "why not?" -Robert F. Kennedy

"Too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of other human beings" - Robert F. Kennedy

"But we can perhaps remember, even if only for a time, that those who live with us, are our brothers. They share with us the same short moment of life. They seek as we do, nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness. Winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can. Surely this bond of common fate, this bond of common goal; can begin to teach us something. Surely we can learn, at least to look at those around us, as fellow men. Surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us, and to become in our own heart's brothers and countrymen once again." - Robert F. Kennedy

So much for the Republicans' mantra about personal responsibility, eh?

Ya cause Bush ordered the Judge to rule that way? Right? You guys are grasping at straws, give it up.

Personally unless they had evidence the Princes were KNOWINGLY giving FOR terrorism they did not have a case. But then that is cause I believe in fair and proper legal cases.

If the claim " they should have known" is now the standard why we could triple our law suits in this country alone.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Can I take the above to read that if YOU were leading this nation that you WOULD hold Saudi Arabia's ruling family partially responsible for 9-11, then?

I already do.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Sounds like pure speculation.

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Trying to pin the actions of others on those that did not commit said actions is hardly personal responsibility. And that is not a Republican trait, it is a conservative one.

This argument's been had over and over. If I sell you a gun, or give you one, and you murder someone with it, am I responsible for your actions subsequent to providing you with the weapon?

Hell no, I'm not. YOU are personally responsible. The members of AQ that planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11 are responsible for the attacks.

And just to clarify, I'd as sooner cozy up to a snake as any of those Saudi princes, so there isn't anything partisan in my argument. I despise the fact that we do business with those backwards-assed f*cks. I STILL think trying to pin 9/11 on them is REALLY stretching it.

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I don't believe that Saudia Arabia or Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11

It was carried out by the Israelie Mossad to force America into a war in the Middle East and destroy Israel's enemies.

Obviously what you believe is completely destroyed by evidence, but feel free to live in your own little world. I'm sure you know everyone there and they like you.

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