You msut live in CO or something.
So criminals exchanging guns for dope show up at gun dealers' shops to undergo background checks because it's the law, right?

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First requiring a criminal to register a weapon would be a violation of his 5th Amendment rights, and since he can't legally register a weapon you can't prosecute him for not doing something he can't legally do. So what's the point of registering any weapns if you can register them all.

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To me, negging someones rep is childish and I will never do it, except in response to someone negging me. Remember the Golden Rule, do unto others.

How do you get someone who builds a weapon from parts -by extension it has no serial number- to register their weapon?

BTW, making the law abiding go through all sorts of bullshit to exercise their rights IS restricting them.

By God, I think you finally got it.

The Courts have ruled against the Government making that list several times.

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"A free people ought to be armed."- George Washington
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."- Thomas Jefferson
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
If you get to control my guns, do I get to control your abortions?

"OUR" gubmint?

The commie claws finally come out!

In Haynes v. U.S. (1968), a Miles Edward Haynes appealed his conviction for unlawful possession of an unregistered short-barreled shotgun.

His argument was ingenious: since he was a convicted felon at the time he was arrested on the shotgun charge, he could not legally possess a firearm. Haynes further argued that for a convicted felon to register a gun, especially a short-barreled shotgun, was effectively an announcement to the government that he was breaking the law. If he did register it, as 26 U.S.C. sec.5841 required, he was incriminating himself; but if he did not register it, the government would punish him for possessing an unregistered firearm — a violation of 26 U.S.C. sec.5851. Consequently, his Fifth Amendment protection against self- incrimination (“No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself”) was being violated — he would be punished if he registered it, and punished if he did not register it. While the Court acknowledged that there were circumstances where a person might register such a weapon without having violated the prohibition on illegal possession or transfer, both the prosecution and the Court acknowledged such circumstances were “uncommon.”

The Court concluded:

We hold that a proper claim of the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination provides a full defense to prosecutions either for failure to register a firearm under sec.5841 or for possession of an unregistered firearm under sec.5851.

This was a 8 - 1 decision (with only Chief Justice Earl Warren dissenting).

You Cannot Force Criminals to Register Their Guns ? Only Law Abiding Citizens | Daily Pundit

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Molon Labe
"A free people ought to be armed."- George Washington
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."- Thomas Jefferson
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
If you get to control my guns, do I get to control your abortions?

Moral of the story:
If there is ever universal gun registration, become a felon, as the government canot prosecute you for having an unregistered weapon.

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Except that is not the gun he used, is it? Why are you accusing others of being dishonest when you are dishonest yourself?

This is what a Bushmaster looks like when it is compliant with the assault weapons ban in CT, which was the strictest law in the nation at the time.

No flash suppressor, no forward grip, no barrel shroud, no tactical mount for a flashlight, and, most importantly of all, not a shotgun.

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Homicides by gun are increasing. Uou claim they will end if we ban guns and track all weapons.

You are wrong, end of discussion.

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It doesn't sum anything up. You folks are so fucked in the head it is scary.

Background writings of the Framers regarding the Second Amendment.

If you read and understand what our founder's intent was regarding the second amendment, you would understand that our Founding Fathers never imagined a well-armed citizenry to keep the American government itself in check. It was all about protecting the American government from both foreign and domestic threats.

Poring over the first-hand documents from 1789 that detailed the First Congress’ debate on arms and militia, you’ll see a constant theme: the 2nd Amendment was created to protect the American government.

The James Madison resolution on the issue clearly stated that the right to bear arms “shall not be infringed” since a “well-regulated militia” is the “best security of a free country.”

Virginia’s support of a right to bear arms was based on the same rationale: “A well regulated Militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State”

Ultimately, as we know the agreed upon 2nd Amendment reads: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

That reads like a conditional statement. If we as a fledgling new nation are committed to our own security, then it’s best we have a regulated militia. And to maintain this defensive militia, we must allow Americans to keep and bear arms.

The other defensive option would have been a standing army.

But at the time, our Founding Fathers believed a militia was the one best defense for the nation since a standing army was, to quote Jefferson, “an engine of oppression.”

Our Founding Fathers were scared senseless of standing armies. It was well-accepted among the Members of Congress during that first gun debate that “standing armies in a time of peace are dangerous to liberty.” Those were the exact words used in the state of New York’s amendment to the gun debate.

Later, in an 1814 letter to Thomas Cooper, Jefferson wrote of standing armies: “The Greeks and Romans had no standing armies, yet they defended themselves. The Greeks by their laws, and the Romans by the spirit of their people, took care to put into the hands of their rulers no such engine of oppression as a standing army. Their system was to make every man a soldier and oblige him to repair to the standard of his country whenever that was reared. This made them invincible; and the same remedy will make us so.”

Had the early framers of the Constitution embraced a standing army during times of peace, then there would be no need for a regulated militia, and thus no need for the 2nd Amendment.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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But they can prosecute you for have a weapon, just not the unregistered charge.

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To me, negging someones rep is childish and I will never do it, except in response to someone negging me. Remember the Golden Rule, do unto others.

Dealers are not required to copy licence & insurance info to sell a car.

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Because I can actually read and comprehend English. Even if we ignore the quote about the tree of liberty needing to be refreshed we have other quotes that more than prove my point.

Emphasis in the original.

Before you try to obfuscate the issue, Monticello.org is the official site of the Monticello museum.

A little rebellion...(Quotation) « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Look at that, rebellion is as important as rain.

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No, but they are required to collect a lot of other personal info, per USAPATRIOT Act, that is just plain creepy.

Have you ever heard of the 14th Amendment?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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