Let's hurry to the peace table, they really mean it this time:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071231/..._gaza_pilgrims

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Brilliant tactic. Burn down your own shelters.

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Kinda like certain people in the US that riot in their own neighborhoods burning the stores they shop at and the cars they drive. Then complain afterwards that they have no cars or food stores.

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-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Never understood that mentality, myself. If I'm THAT pissed, I'm burning YOUR hut down, not mine.

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Well I can explain some of the lack of that happening, The "other" guys tend to be armed and willing to "defend" their property. Plus the MOB won't quite fit in in the other neighborhood so no claims of' "What, me? I didn't do anything."

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-Laurence J. Peters

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-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

hey, it got your attention in the 60s when a racist status quo was alright with most of the US... ditto after the rodney king verdict. Than again, since we're talking about pals let's go ahead and ignore similar historic occurances that illustrate the exact same disenfranchised frustration.. Hell,


EL-ARISH, Egypt - Palestinian pilgrims broke windows and set mattresses ablaze at temporary camps in Egypt Monday as relatives rallied across the border in Gaza, demanding their kin be allowed to return through a crossing controlled by Hamas.
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The pilgrims, who are returning from the hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia and include some Hamas militants, have rejected Egypt's demands that they enter Gaza through the Israeli-controlled Aouja border crossing.

They want to return through Rafah, a direct crossing between Gaza and Egypt where Israel has no control



SHOCKING that people respond to being herded... I'm REELING from astonishment!

Shocking that they think THEY get to tell a soveriegn Nation what it will and will not do, one that is not even THEIR Nation.

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-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

indeed, the GAL of black bastards telling a nation that they refuse to drink from colored only water fountains and black only pools! What balls that must have taken!


And, speaking of punching a gift horse in the mouth, at least the smallpox blankets kept those fucking savages WARM!


I tellya... why WOULDNT anyone enjoy being caught up like a bunch of goats in a cage after a pilgrimage to SAUDI ARABIA? Hell, Look at us! We catch one mexican criminal in the US and we shut the fucking border down and throw all of our latinos in tents too! oh wait... no we dont. duh, silly me.


I'm POSITIVE you'd speak the same words about the authority of a soverign nation were it Iran herding jews like cattle instead of our rendition buddy Egypt acting on behalf of israel to fuck with pals, eh? Gosh, now why on EARTH would the mid eastern muslim population be thinking negativley about jews and the enabling west??

Ahh so Egypt is just a pawn of those damn Jews......

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Indeed, it certainly appears OTHERWISE by the virtue of the tenants of this story, doesn't it?


Gosh, how else would one interpret:

The standoff is the latest conflict over efforts by Egypt, Israel and the Palestinian Authority to isolate the Gaza Strip, which Hamas took over in June. Israel fears that if the pilgrims return through Rafah, Hamas members and smuggled cash could slip through.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071231/..._gaza_pilgrims


Yup.. clearly this refusal to comply like sheep is overt hatred of jews manifesting itself in a collective palestinian EVIL... surely they should have forgotten, by now, that democracy works even if israel invalidated the election results and installed what amounts to a puppet pal authority... Clearly every one of those dirty bastards should pay for israels FEAR. After all, grinding ethnicities under the boot heel of paranoia is what ALL good western nations do!

What? That they wish to enter through unpatrolled areas? Israel should just say, 'sure'?

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is israel all of a sudden the keeper of palestinian travel now? What israeli office should the palestinian travel authority report to?


Holy shit, should they start wearing their version of yellow stars of david now? at what point does israel have jurisdiction on a trek between PALESTINE and SAUDI ARABIA? Further can you accept the marginalization of the entire population of pilgrims over the supposed actions of what may or may not be a few? Do we, as a western nation, round up OUR arabs post-911? it's harassment that jews and americans would not tolerate. why should pals be any different?

Seriously dude, travel matters when dealing with suicide bombers.

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They aren't citizens of Israel. And if they stop trying to blow it up, they can travel to their heart's content.

I know you like the idea of dead jews and palestinians taking over Israel, I say too bad. I don't think Jews will die for your happiness.

I await your next tirade.

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Yeah it got my attention. All I could think was "How stupid."

Your comparisons always come up the same ... when you lose or side with a loser, you exist at the whim of the winner. The history of the world has been dictated by those rules until relatively recently.

Frustration? Yeah it sucks to suffer the consequences of one's actions/inactions. Mesopotamia was subjugated by the Ottoman Empire; which, chose the losing side in a war.

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