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Old 10-14-2007, 09:51 AM
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Analysts Find Israel Struck a Nuclear Project Inside Syria

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By DAVID E. SANGER and MARK MAZZETTI
Published: October 14, 2007

WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 — Israel’s air attack on Syria last month was directed against a site that Israeli and American intelligence analysts judged was a partly constructed nuclear reactor, apparently modeled on one North Korea has used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel, according to American and foreign officials with access to the intelligence reports.

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Notice how quiet Syria's been about this. Guess they know they got caught red-handed. I'm shocked, I tell ya, shocked!
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Notice how quiet Syria's been about this. Guess they know they got caught red-handed. I'm shocked, I tell ya, shocked!
They don't necessarily have "RED hands, (as you put it,) but who, Pray tell, can they complain to???? The US???
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They don't necessarily have "RED hands, (as you put it,) but who, Pray tell, can they complain to???? The US???
A nuclear facility isn't red-hands?

Ya... those lovely hezbollah-supporting Syrians are real stand-up dudes.

They had no problem complaining about Israel defending itself from rocket attacks from Lebanon, did they?
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given the track record of "analysts" these days I don't think i'd be taking anyones opinion as truth. Who wants to trade erroneous analyst stories within the last ten years and the bullshit tied to people believeing shit they want to believe regardless of the truth?

Even if it diminishes the lionization of ones favorite pet nations.


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A nuclear facility isn't red-hands?
Do WE have any of those? does Israel? (especially Israel) does China? Russia? India? pakistan? So why should they be different??? Because you ( and a whole bunch of other idiots) think they are more of a threat than ourselves?

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They had no problem complaining about Israel defending itself from rocket attacks from Lebanon, did they?
So now, Syria and Lebanon are one and the same?--- If that wasn't your point, what was???
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Do WE have any of those? does Israel? (especially Israel) does China? Russia? India? pakistan? So why should they be different??? Because you ( and a whole bunch of other idiots) think they are more of a threat than ourselves?

So now, Syria and Lebanon are one and the same?--- If that wasn't your point, what was???
They are more of a threat than those you mentioned, yeah.
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I wonder what kind of a thread we'd become if MEXICO raided our nation and blew some shit up...



Indeed, any reaction from Syria would just be written off as more jew hating antisemitism by those who don't really give a fuck about the sovereignty of muslim nations..
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Do WE have any of those? does Israel? (especially Israel) does China? Russia? India? pakistan? So why should they be different??? Because you ( and a whole bunch of other idiots) think they are more of a threat than ourselves?

So now, Syria and Lebanon are one and the same?--- If that wasn't your point, what was???

Yes.

If anyone is an idiot, it's someone that thinks people who are willing to kill themselves to murder their enemies should possess the power to kill billions in seconds.
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I wonder what kind of a thread we'd become if MEXICO raided our nation and blew some shit up...



Indeed, any reaction from Syria would just be written off as more jew hating antisemitism by those who don't really give a fuck about the sovereignty of muslim nations..
You mean if Mexico raided the US and blew some of those nuclear reactors we use to buld nukes to attack Mexico with?

The Arabs themselves are the ones who don't give a fuck about sovereignty. If they did, there wouldn't really be an issue, would there?
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WHO is the only nation to ever USE a nuke, again?

Indeed, it's hard to point a finger at syria with our track record, dude.


Funny how you accuse the ARABS to disrespecting sovereignty... After all, it sure was the ARABS who decided to carve a nation for itself out of indigenous peoples.. yup.. Just like those pesky fucking injuns just didn't appreciate the sovereignty behind the Louisiana purchase!

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Yes.

If anyone is an idiot, it's someone that thinks people who are willing to kill themselves to murder their enemies should possess the power to kill billions in seconds.

as opposed to people willing to rationalize ACTUALLY USING NUKES ON TWO CIVILIAN POPULATIONS on the mere speculation that it saved lives?

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Old 10-18-2007, 08:32 PM
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WHO is the only nation to ever USE a nuke, again?

Indeed, it's hard to point a finger at syria with our track record, dude.


Funny how you accuse the ARABS to disrespecting sovereignty... After all, it sure was the ARABS who decided to carve a nation for itself out of indigenous peoples.. yup.. Just like those pesky fucking injuns just didn't appreciate the sovereignty behind the Louisiana purchase!

It was the Arabs that ran the Jews out of the Middle East to begin with. They can claim being indigenous to Israel/Palestine as much as any Arab can.

By the rules of their respective days, both Native Americans and Arabs lost land as the result of losing wars. That's how it was. Griping about it 60 years or 200 years later is pointless.

That is the way societies have operated since the beginning. The strong push out the weak.

When you start giving everything back ... just WHERE do you stop, exactly? 1900? 1800? 1949? 1924? It's all relative to who's doing the bitching about what.
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as opposed to people willing to rationalize ACTUALLY USING NUKES ON TWO CIVILIAN POPULATIONS on the mere speculation that it saved lives?

More like calculated. And you may as well quit trying this one. I know you are intelligent enough to know that a million lives is hardly a far-fetched estimate.

Read up on the Battle of Okinawa, then get back to me.

We were in a declared war and it is the leadership's responsibility to use whatever means available to destroy the enemy's will and ability to fight with the least amount of cost to their own side. Something our leadership appears to not comprehend nowadays.
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even if it means using mustard gas and genocide?

Would you agree that bombing japan with nukes pretty much opened the door the nuclear escalation during the cold war and is probably why EVERYONE wants them now? Is the first estimate of a million worth the fallout of a couple million more a couple decades later? perspective, dude. perspective.
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