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Now consider the facts:
By 1964 Israel had already been attacked by the armies of her "peaceful" Arab neighbors and her citizens and borders had been under constant threat for 16 years. By 1964 the PLO had been founded as the face of those "peaceful" Arabs with the express intent of destroying Israel and "driving her Jews into the sea." Israel did not exist beyond the "Green Line" until after 1967 and the first settlement wasn't established until the early 1970s. So now which came first ... Arab violence toward Israel's Jews or the occupation of unincorporated territory?
Oh, and BTW, go **** yourself.
The occupation started in 1948.
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Israeli occupation caused the problem and is the reason for the rocket attacks.
What would palistanians do without their occupation! There's no occupation, like the occupation, and the occupation is the prophet of the occupation!
The "occupation" is not a debatable issue. Deal with it!
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:12 PM
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Israeli occupation? Israel evacuated Gaza, ENTIRELY, they elected a terrorist organization called Hamas, and shortly thereafter they started the suicide bombing and shooting rockets into Israel.

Keep up will ya?
The unilaterally maintained a ceasefire, but Israel would not end the illegal and immoral blockade. Even after that, they honored the ceasefire. Rocket attacks started up again after the Israeli's broke the ceasefire with a commando raid into Gaza.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:50 PM
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Wrong! Israeli occupation caused the problem and is the reason for the rocket attacks.
Israeli occupation? Israel evacuated Gaza, ENTIRELY, they elected a terrorist organization called Hamas, and shortly thereafter they started the suicide bombing and shooting rockets into Israel.

Keep up will ya?
They didn't elect a terrorist organization. They were elected there and they are not terrorists there.
Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
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Israeli occupation caused the problem and is the reason for the rocket attacks.
What would palistanians do without their occupation! There's no occupation, like the occupation, and the occupation is the prophet of the occupation!
There no business like the occupation business.
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Heres a question whats the Hamas health plan, does it cover premature detonations?
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What does it mean when the son of its founder, reaches such conclusions about Hamas and Islam?
it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.

hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.

i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".

there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
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Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
So was this guy!


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Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled “Terror.” Shamir wrote,

“Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. … We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.

“First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.”
Said pot to kettle.
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Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
So was this guy!


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Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled “Terror.” Shamir wrote,

“Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. … We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.

“First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.”
Said pot to kettle.
Not by US State Dept standards.
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Yes it is.[/quote

What does it mean when the son of its founder, reaches such conclusions about Hamas and Islam?
it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.

hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.

i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".

there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
You of course have no proof just false accusations and assumptions.
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Wa? Hamas was elected and Hamas is a terrorist organization, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Remove your head from your Mohammad, I mean anus!
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Shamir was one of the leaders of Lehi (also known as The Stern Gang), a Zionist terrorist militia which rampaged through Palestine in the 1940s. Were anyone to dispute that Lehi was a terrorist group, Shamir proudly affirmed that particular description in a 1943 article he wrote entitled “Terror.” Shamir wrote,

“Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. … We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle.

“First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.”
Said pot to kettle.
Not by US State Dept standards.
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it means that shin bet has deep pockets and that almost everyone has a price. it may also be of note that mosab hassan yousef had just turned eighteen when shin bet began to "groom" him.

hell, i have more respect for benedict arnold's integrity than i do for this man's (and i use the word "man" with great reservation)...and arnold died alone and shunned by the people of england, the very people for whom he committed his act of betrayal and treason.

i think a better question might be "what kind of person lauds and embraces a person of such obviously questionable character?".

there is some validity to the saying "you are judged by the company you keep." i suppose an adjunct to that saying would be "you are judged by the qualities ehibited by those who you admire."
You of course have no proof just false accusations and assumptions.
i have read your posts and it appears that your sole criterion as to whether a statement is factual or accurate is how closely it aligns to your ideology or your perception of a situation. "son of hamas" is a perfect example. you find it entirely creditable that a young man/adolescent raised in the poverty of an occupied state, or a state under siege, who finds himself in the hands of those who have created such conditions would cooperate with his warders strictly out of a sense of noblesse oblige and that economic incentive and the promise of not having to be subjected to physical abuse had nothing to do with his turning.

and of course, israeli intelligence agents would never even remotely consider making an offer to one of its prisoners because we all know what an anathema spying and other such forms of subterfuge is to israelis, zionists, and the jewish people.

so you are right. i have no proof for you at all because all the proof in heaven or on earth is insufficient for an unreasonable and dogmatic man.

LOL...also, i am not sure exactly what you want me to prove. mosab hassan yousef, by his own admission, corroborates what i said, for the most part. he was imprisoned by shin bet at an early age and was paid by them to spy on his family and HAMAS. those are facts. his motives and integrity are certainly open to question, as are what he claims are his motive to be. i very sincerely doubt if he would admit that money was involved or the prospect of seeking political asylum in america.

you however, seem to be willing to take the word of the worst kind of paid turncoat and traitor at his word and as promoted by a well known and thoroughly disreputable propaganda site, MEMRI, an organisation founded by an ex-israeli intelligence agent and largely staffed by, lo and behold, by israelis, jews, and many ex- israeli intelligence agents. my god, how could anybody ever question the even the remote possibility of bias in such an august group?
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