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They were ceasefire agreements between the different armed forces.

Palestine had no armed forces.
How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
Under the mandate, Britain was supposed to be their defensive force. Britain cut and run leaving Palestinian civilians under the attack of Israel's military.
How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
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How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
Under the mandate, Britain was supposed to be their defensive force. Britain cut and run leaving Palestinian civilians under the attack of Israel's military.
How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
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They were ceasefire agreements between the different armed forces.

Palestine had no armed forces.
How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
Under the mandate, Britain was supposed to be their defensive force. Britain cut and run leaving Palestinian civilians under the attack of Israel's military.
Britain violated the League of Nations charter, violated the terms of the mandate and generally violated the rights of the Palestinians.

However, that did not negate their rights.
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Under the mandate, Britain was supposed to be their defensive force. Britain cut and run leaving Palestinian civilians under the attack of Israel's military.
How could a non-existent entity have armed forces?
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Today is just like 1948. What Obama Can Learn From Truman | The New Republic

Remember they thought Dewey Beat Truman? They even printed papers saying so?

Harry Truman’s campaign for reelection in 1948—successful, despite a poor economic climate, and a polarized electorate—offers a promising path for Obama’s reelection.

Plenty of parallels. Most prominently, both were hampered by crippling midterm elections, fueled largely by anger about the poor state of the economy, which produced sweeping and across-the-board loss of seats for their party in Congress.

The Congress of 1947 and 1948 record on domestic policy was like today. “they veered so sharply to the right that they alienated one segment of the electorate after another. Pushing the anti-union Taft-Hartley legislation over Truman’s veto, they drove a labor movement furious with Truman back into the president’s arms.

In what will no doubt sound familiar to watchers of the current Congress, the sweeping GOP victories in 1946 convinced many Republicans that they had achieved a lasting ideological victory—that the American public had finished with the liberalism and embraced their brand of conservatism. They were wrong. Voters had reacted to short-term economic conditions, and to a post-war mood for change, but not for a new right-wing ideology.

Truman seized upon the conservative over-reaching and openly fought against what he dubbed the “Do-Nothing Eightieth Congress.” That rhetorical strategy paid dividends.

Not only was Truman reelected, Democrats picked up nine seats in the Senate and a full 75 in the House to recapture both bodies. “The luckiest thing that ever happened to me,” Truman remarked years later, “was the Eightieth Congress.”

Barack Obama ought to be able to leverage his own recalcitrant Congress for political gain. The sitting 112th Congress, like Truman’s 80th, is dominated by a Republican House that believes that its sweeping victory reflected a huge public mandate to dismantle government as we know it. They are wrong again.
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Today is just like 1948. What Obama Can Learn From Truman | The New Republic

Remember they thought Dewey Beat Truman? They even printed papers saying so?

Harry Truman’s campaign for reelection in 1948—successful, despite a poor economic climate, and a polarized electorate—offers a promising path for Obama’s reelection.

Plenty of parallels. Most prominently, both were hampered by crippling midterm elections, fueled largely by anger about the poor state of the economy, which produced sweeping and across-the-board loss of seats for their party in Congress.

The Congress of 1947 and 1948 record on domestic policy was like today. “they veered so sharply to the right that they alienated one segment of the electorate after another. Pushing the anti-union Taft-Hartley legislation over Truman’s veto, they drove a labor movement furious with Truman back into the president’s arms.

In what will no doubt sound familiar to watchers of the current Congress, the sweeping GOP victories in 1946 convinced many Republicans that they had achieved a lasting ideological victory—that the American public had finished with the liberalism and embraced their brand of conservatism. They were wrong. Voters had reacted to short-term economic conditions, and to a post-war mood for change, but not for a new right-wing ideology.

Truman seized upon the conservative over-reaching and openly fought against what he dubbed the “Do-Nothing Eightieth Congress.” That rhetorical strategy paid dividends.

Not only was Truman reelected, Democrats picked up nine seats in the Senate and a full 75 in the House to recapture both bodies. “The luckiest thing that ever happened to me,” Truman remarked years later, “was the Eightieth Congress.”

Barack Obama ought to be able to leverage his own recalcitrant Congress for political gain. The sitting 112th Congress, like Truman’s 80th, is dominated by a Republican House that believes that its sweeping victory reflected a huge public mandate to dismantle government as we know it. They are wrong again.
Problems with your "promising path".
Dems hold the Senate.
Economic growth sucks.
There are still fewer employed than when Obama took office.
The deficit is $4.7 trillion higher, 3 years after he took office.
Obamacare is less popular than ever.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:31 PM
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Today is just like 1948. What Obama Can Learn From Truman | The New Republic

Remember they thought Dewey Beat Truman? They even printed papers saying so?

Harry Truman’s campaign for reelection in 1948—successful, despite a poor economic climate, and a polarized electorate—offers a promising path for Obama’s reelection.

Plenty of parallels. Most prominently, both were hampered by crippling midterm elections, fueled largely by anger about the poor state of the economy, which produced sweeping and across-the-board loss of seats for their party in Congress.

The Congress of 1947 and 1948 record on domestic policy was like today. “they veered so sharply to the right that they alienated one segment of the electorate after another. Pushing the anti-union Taft-Hartley legislation over Truman’s veto, they drove a labor movement furious with Truman back into the president’s arms.

In what will no doubt sound familiar to watchers of the current Congress, the sweeping GOP victories in 1946 convinced many Republicans that they had achieved a lasting ideological victory—that the American public had finished with the liberalism and embraced their brand of conservatism. They were wrong. Voters had reacted to short-term economic conditions, and to a post-war mood for change, but not for a new right-wing ideology.

Truman seized upon the conservative over-reaching and openly fought against what he dubbed the “Do-Nothing Eightieth Congress.” That rhetorical strategy paid dividends.

Not only was Truman reelected, Democrats picked up nine seats in the Senate and a full 75 in the House to recapture both bodies. “The luckiest thing that ever happened to me,” Truman remarked years later, “was the Eightieth Congress.”

Barack Obama ought to be able to leverage his own recalcitrant Congress for political gain. The sitting 112th Congress, like Truman’s 80th, is dominated by a Republican House that believes that its sweeping victory reflected a huge public mandate to dismantle government as we know it. They are wrong again.
Problems with your "promising path".
Dems hold the Senate.
Economic growth sucks.
There are still fewer employed than when Obama took office.
The deficit is $4.7 trillion higher, 3 years after he took office.
Obamacare is less popular than ever.
Sorry things are EXACTLY the same. Pretty damn close if you ask me.

And we will keep control of the Senate too.

Bush was bleeding 7 million jobs. Obama adding 300,000 a month. Not good enough for you? You know nothing will be good enough for you. Check recent surveys. I'd rather be holding Obama's cards right now than Mitts.

Encumbant
Ended the Iraq and Afgan occupations
Got Bin Ladin
Economy going in the right direction finally

On day one of Obama's admin you guys couldn't wait to saddle him with Bush's mess, including the debt. Survey says most people still blame Bush and the GOP for that. And they are right. You know it. Or do you still say it was fanny mae that brought down the global economy. LOL.

PS. Romney invented Obamacare. There will not be a big turnout for him because evangelicals hate Romney. Why do you think he lost to McCain? Now you think he will beat Obama? HA! OK.
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The GOP attacked unions in Wisconsin, now Walker's getting recalled. You think those people are going to vote with Mitt? Mitt agreed with Walker.

70% of voters in Ohio said not to end collective bargaining for union workers, Romney said he agreed that it should be taken away. How's he gonna win Ohio?

And Romney said he would have let GM and Chrysler go bankrupt. You think he'll win Michigan?

Pushing the anti-union Taft-Hartley legislation over Truman’s veto, they drove a labor movement furious with Truman back into the president’s arms.

Yea, nothing like today. LOL.
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Today is just like 1948. What Obama Can Learn From Truman | The New Republic

Remember they thought Dewey Beat Truman? They even printed papers saying so?

Harry Truman’s campaign for reelection in 1948—successful, despite a poor economic climate, and a polarized electorate—offers a promising path for Obama’s reelection.

Plenty of parallels. Most prominently, both were hampered by crippling midterm elections, fueled largely by anger about the poor state of the economy, which produced sweeping and across-the-board loss of seats for their party in Congress.

The Congress of 1947 and 1948 record on domestic policy was like today. “they veered so sharply to the right that they alienated one segment of the electorate after another. Pushing the anti-union Taft-Hartley legislation over Truman’s veto, they drove a labor movement furious with Truman back into the president’s arms.

In what will no doubt sound familiar to watchers of the current Congress, the sweeping GOP victories in 1946 convinced many Republicans that they had achieved a lasting ideological victory—that the American public had finished with the liberalism and embraced their brand of conservatism. They were wrong. Voters had reacted to short-term economic conditions, and to a post-war mood for change, but not for a new right-wing ideology.

Truman seized upon the conservative over-reaching and openly fought against what he dubbed the “Do-Nothing Eightieth Congress.” That rhetorical strategy paid dividends.

Not only was Truman reelected, Democrats picked up nine seats in the Senate and a full 75 in the House to recapture both bodies. “The luckiest thing that ever happened to me,” Truman remarked years later, “was the Eightieth Congress.”

Barack Obama ought to be able to leverage his own recalcitrant Congress for political gain. The sitting 112th Congress, like Truman’s 80th, is dominated by a Republican House that believes that its sweeping victory reflected a huge public mandate to dismantle government as we know it. They are wrong again.
Problems with your "promising path".
Dems hold the Senate.
Economic growth sucks.
There are still fewer employed than when Obama took office.
The deficit is $4.7 trillion higher, 3 years after he took office.
Obamacare is less popular than ever.
Sorry things are EXACTLY the same. Pretty damn close if you ask me.

And we will keep control of the Senate too.

Bush was bleeding 7 million jobs. Obama adding 300,000 a month. Not good enough for you? You know nothing will be good enough for you. Check recent surveys. I'd rather be holding Obama's cards right now than Mitts.

Encumbant
Ended the Iraq and Afgan occupations
Got Bin Ladin
Economy going in the right direction finally

On day one of Obama's admin you guys couldn't wait to saddle him with Bush's mess, including the debt. Survey says most people still blame Bush and the GOP for that. And they are right. You know it. Or do you still say it was fanny mae that brought down the global economy. LOL.

PS. Romney invented Obamacare. There will not be a big turnout for him because evangelicals hate Romney. Why do you think he lost to McCain? Now you think he will beat Obama? HA! OK.
Added 300,000 jobs a month? When?
As far as the economy going in the right direction, GHW Bush had real economic growth before the election and he lost. His was much higher than Obama's.
Obama can't get idiots to vote for him by saying, "Hope and Change", he actually has a (****ty) record to defend.
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Palestine border mentioned 4 times.
Israel 0

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Palestine border mentioned 1
Israel 0

The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949

Palestine border mentioned 2
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The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949

Palestine border mentioned 1
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The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
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The issues are not small. Abbas wants to enshrine the 1967 boundary as sacrosanct, even though that line was merely a military demarcation after the war that ended in 1949 and had never been recognized by the Palestinians or anyone else as a legal border.

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Israel 0 The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949, etc..
Cool, so, who signed them documents?
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Cool, so, who signed them documents?
The Israeli government a foreign military force occupying Palestine.
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Cool, so, who signed them documents?
The Israeli government a foreign military force occupying Palestine.
So, who was that sheikh, emir, sultan, shakh, efendi, president, prime-minister of that "palestine"?
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The Israeli government a foreign military force occupying Palestine.
So, who was that sheikh, emir, sultan, shakh, efendi, president, prime-minister of that "palestine"?
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