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The Hebrew Bible describes constant warfare between the Jews and other tribes, including the Philistines, whose capital was Gaza.
It also says how God GAVE the land of the philistines to ISRAEL.
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Exodus 32:27



And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Because of the idol worshippers corrupting the minds of the hebrews. God punished them. Stop trying to make the Israelis out to be like the satan worshiping murderers the palestinians.
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And Israel is driving Christians out of the holy land.

While Christian population dwindles in Muslim Middle East, it thrives in Israel



"In fact, the Christian growth rate has outpaced the Jewish growth in Israel in the last 12 years!" But you wouldn't know that reading the NYT; nor would you know that the main reason Christians are dwindling is due to Muslim persecution. "NY Times Skews the News on Christian Decline in the Mideast," by Tamar Sternthal for CAMERA, May 17:

Pope Benedict XVI's journey through Jordan, Israel and the West Bank prompted Ethan Bronner, Jerusalem bureau chief for the New York Times, to report on the declining Christian population across the Middle East. But his May 12 story, "Christians in Mideast Losing Numbers and Influence," misleads on crucial facts about this troubling trend among Palestinian and Israeli Christians. (The article also appeared May 13 in the International Herald Tribune.)

First, while the Christian population is diminishing throughout the Middle East, including the Palestinian areas, the opposite is true in Israel a key fact Bronner inexplicably ignores.
While Christian population dwindles in Muslim Middle East, it thrives in Israel - Jihad Watch



Now, why is it not surprising that you got this wrong, too, Tinny?
I didn't get it wrong. Palestinian Christians want to live in their native land even if it is currently occupied by Israel.
The palestinians have no native land, Israel belongs to the Jews per GOD.
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The episode of God forbidding Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac is one of the most important and instructive in the Hebrew Bible, reflecting the Jewish priority on life.
Too bad there's no real proof for any of this.
Too bad you are an idiot. The Bible was written intending to establish a code of ethics and laws, which form the basis of Western civilization, today. It was not intended to be a book of history.
You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
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Too bad there's no real proof for any of this.
Too bad you are an idiot. The Bible was written intending to establish a code of ethics and laws, which form the basis of Western civilization, today. It was not intended to be a book of history.
You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
You're way out of your depth. Palestine was invented by Europeans. The Torah was written in Israel to establish a code of morals, ethics and laws, forming the basis of Western civilization, today. it was not intended as a book of history.

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Too bad there's no real proof for any of this.
Too bad you are an idiot. The Bible was written intending to establish a code of ethics and laws, which form the basis of Western civilization, today. It was not intended to be a book of history.
You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
The Bible is not fiction. Using your same idiotic argument, just because you disbelieve doesn't make it fiction.
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You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice. Now, go to mommy.
and so the Bible(Old testament) is lying about the sacrifices of the ancient Israelites? The tribes of Israel are not without sin.
You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice.

Go to mommy!
your weak and have nothing to back up your side, not even insults work in your favor.
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Too bad you are an idiot. The Bible was written intending to establish a code of ethics and laws, which form the basis of Western civilization, today. It was not intended to be a book of history.
You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
The Bible is not fiction. Using your same idiotic argument, just because you disbelieve doesn't make it fiction.
why not? even jokestone states that what is in the Bible is not true.
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and so the Bible(Old testament) is lying about the sacrifices of the ancient Israelites? The tribes of Israel are not without sin.
You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice.

Go to mommy!
your weak and have nothing to back up your side, not even insults work in your favor.
You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice. Go to momma.
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Too bad you are an idiot. The Bible was written intending to establish a code of ethics and laws, which form the basis of Western civilization, today. It was not intended to be a book of history.
You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
The Bible is not fiction. Using your same idiotic argument, just because you disbelieve doesn't make it fiction.
In fact, much of the historicity of the Bible is verified by the archaeological record.
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You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice.

Go to mommy!
your weak and have nothing to back up your side, not even insults work in your favor.
You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice. Go to momma.
Judaism does support human sacrifice:
Human Sacrifice in Judaism

Sorry bro, YOU lose.
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your weak and have nothing to back up your side, not even insults work in your favor.
You lost the debate, as usual, stupid little boy. Judaism opposes human sacrifice. Go to momma.
Judaism does support human sacrifice:
Human Sacrifice in Judaism

Sorry bro, YOU lose.
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Isaac was the subject of the tenth and most difficult test of Abraham's faith: G-d commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering. (Gen 22). This test is known in Jewish tradition as the Akeidah (the Binding, a reference to the fact that Isaac was bound on the altar).
But this test is also an extraordinary demonstration of Isaac's own faith, because according to Jewish tradition, Isaac knew that he was to be sacrificed, yet he did not resist, and was united with his father in dedication.

At the last moment, G-d sent an angel to stop the sacrifice. It is interesting to note that child sacrifice was a common practice in the region at the time. Thus, to people of the time, the surprising thing about this story is not the fact that G-d asked Abraham to sacrifice his child, but that G-d stopped him!

Judaism uses this story as evidence that G-d abhors human sacrifice. In fact, I have seen some sources indicating that Abraham failed this test of faith because he did not refuse to sacrifice his son! Judaism has always strongly opposed the practice of human sacrifice, commonplace in many other cultures at that time and place.
Judaism 101: The Patriarchs and the Origins of Judaism
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You're trying to use books of fiction to justify your positions on Palestine, that's totally laughable. It's like trying to debate whose fairy tales gives which side more right to kill for land then the other, you're all nuts.
The Bible is not fiction. Using your same idiotic argument, just because you disbelieve doesn't make it fiction.
In fact, much of the historicity of the Bible is verified by the archaeological record.
I'm talking about the ark, the parting of the sea, the world made in 6 days, jesus even existing... none of the big things can be proven. I'll believe it if I see some actual proof.
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The Bible is not fiction. Using your same idiotic argument, just because you disbelieve doesn't make it fiction.
In fact, much of the historicity of the Bible is verified by the archaeological record.
I'm talking about the ark, the parting of the sea, the world made in 6 days, jesus even existing... none of the big things can be proven. I'll believe it if I see some actual proof.
Absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence.

Surely, even a mental defective like you can understand this, yes?
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In fact, much of the historicity of the Bible is verified by the archaeological record.
I'm talking about the ark, the parting of the sea, the world made in 6 days, jesus even existing... none of the big things can be proven. I'll believe it if I see some actual proof.
Absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence.

Surely, even a mental defective like you can understand this, yes?
So you're an idiot. Check. So basically anything can be true because it can't be proven not to be? Wow, stunning logic. No wonder religion has ****ed up the world so much, no proof needed for stuff to be facts, so anyone can basically just make anything up.
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