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Finally the truth is coming out? Where did you hear this? Because I heard this weeks ago on Randi Rhodes and no other "liberal" media mentioned this fact.

I've even been arguing with a guy at work. His son is in Iraq and he said that the Iraqi's want us to stay. I told him, "your son is in the green zone".

But, I have a feeling Bush is going to make Malaki an offer he can't refuse.

I hope Exxon gets thrown out too. And I hope we Nationalize our oil like Venuezuela did. Screw the oil companies.

And while we are at it, abolish the Federal Reserve. Those are rich men that own our country. They control the money, so they control EVERYTHING.

And break up the media. It has been taken over by neocons. Time for truth to come back to the news.

Terrorism is defeated ...

We want a time table ...

All this coming from the Iraqi gov't who are "calling the shots," and in control of their own destiny.

Right ... right?

What I hate is that the people we argue with will just pretend to forget they were dead wrong about "Iraqi's wanting us to stay", and they'll swallow the next lie that Rush feeds them.

Just like the mission changed a million times.

Now I don't even care or believe that we are succeeding in Iraq. They lied about that so many times.

And the surge was meant to lower violence enough that they could make politicial reconciliation. So don't tell us General Betrayus that the surge worked, because there still is NO POLITICIAL RECONCILIATION.

Oops. Did I say Betrayus? I meant Petrayus. Obama, osama. You know. LOL.

Iraq wants to be independent, and those who are corrupt and evil would like to see our backsides sooner than later.

We're on the verge of having a beacon in the middle east that will be an example to everyone else. A place where a representative government is in place, a place that is friendly to the US, a place where people can live happily and in peace. And dumbasses who have claimed we lost from the beginning will ruin it all by whining and wringing their hands and pulling us out of there microseconds (figuratively speaking) before it happens.

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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
Spot Joins Mensa
by James "Kibo" Parry

One Of The Terrorists Number One Reason For Hating America Is That We Have Bases In Saudi Arabia. Infidel Invaders Is What They Call Us.

Dude, You Want A 100 Year War. What's Wrong With You.

How About We Secure Our Borders And Stop Letting Terrorists In To Attack Us?

People Like You Made The Same Argument In Viet Nam.

You Are Simply Wrong.

We Have Afganistan Already.

Iraq Wants Us To Leave. Malaki Wants Us To Leave. Time To Leave.

The War On "terrorism"? How Can You Beat That? Who Are "terrorists"? Evildoers. Insurgents.

Dude, You Got Mad When 4000 Americans Died On 9-11. We Have Killed Over A Million Iraqi's. How Angry Are They?

You Need To Take Your Brainwashed Head Out Of Your Patriotic Ass.

The troops aren't going to get "yanked" out.

Even *if* Obama withdraws from Iraq it will be done over a period of time.

We're talking 2 years from today at the earliest ...

So if we are "on the verge" now is not possible that it "will be" in two years?

Most recent poll I could find on the subject:

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Poll suggests flicker of optimism in Iraq

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"There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits

Let's talk about brainwashing. Brainwashing is when you think the best place on earth, the United States, where people have the highest standard of living in the world, is bad simply by way of being good. When you think that because we have a high standard of living, we should suffer. Or because we treat our citizens well, other countries are right to target and resent us. Because we have freedom, we should die at the hands of tyrants and terrorists. That's brainwashing. The inability to see that terrorists are not good guys, that they don't have justification for targeting innocents (they don't just target us, you know, you fucking moron. They target people indiscriminately. They kill their own children and women, for God's sake).

I suggest that if you're going to play with the big boys, you take a deep breath to make sure your tiny pea brain is fully oxygenated, and think for yourself, instead of mindlessly regurgitating the pap you've been fed by anti-American, terrorist-supporting pieces of shit who think it's cute to bad mouth the very country that allows you to speak at all.

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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
Spot Joins Mensa
by James "Kibo" Parry

incorrect
Statistics - Human Development Reports (UNDP)
Human Development Report 2007/2008 - Human Poverty Index (HPI-1) value (%)

did you read what he wrote? he didnt say we should be attacked or that terrorists are nice people.

i have a question. can you be critical of someone or something, even if you love them or it? youre talking like america is purely a victim, while that doesnt seem to be the case.

take a deep breath and calm down. lets get back to an intelligent discussion instead of name calling.

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sealybobo thinks im a racist right winger. RGS thinks im a braindead liberal. I wonder which one I am?

the best view is from the middle

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

“Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other” Oscar Ameringer

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." James Madison

I'd just be content with some form of consistency from the White House. We've been told that the US isn't in charge there, that it's Maliki's gov't and that the Iraqis make the decisions. But when stuff like this comes out they shrug it off or brush it aside. Double-speak all around.

It's like the surge ... before the surge we couldn't leave because things were going so badly and now the narrative has flipped to we can't leave now because thing are going so well.

Before the surge we couldn't leave because things would get worse if we did. And it's the same now...if we left now, things will devolve.

But it's right and natural that Iraqis want to take over their own government. YOu just have to be careful with the strategy. If we leave too soon, they're ripe for the picking and you end up with a mess like before.

We have handed over 9 of 18 provinces already. Things are going exactly the way they're supposed to.

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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
Spot Joins Mensa
by James "Kibo" Parry

he people have spoken.

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Luminous Beings Are We.

socialist

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the government takes your money, while providing you a place to make that money, and because of that protection, which you PAY for, they expect and demand more tribute.... Yurt

Why doesnt the CIA just take out Nuri al-Maliki... He is basically saying that he wants Obama to win...