we have an election coming up between the left and the rights. the main detmering factor will be the war in iraq. the only probelm in america is we are done fighting iraq people!!!! right now we are over in iraq not to fight iraq but terrorests. in simple words we are training iraq to protect itself. we are fighting terrorsts because we are friends with alot of the middle eastern countries. these countries asked us to be there and help them through their hardship. on 9/11 we were attacked. you people against the war on terror are saying the fathers, mothers, uncles and aunts, fire fighters, police, and soldiers die in vain. you want to let all the people die in vain. i realize that soldiers will die, there is a few things wrong with using that as an defense. the draft is gone the soldiers chose to go to iraq. i do realize there has been corruption in that catogory but still. i am not saying o well they died. i see soilders as angels welling to die for their country those are patriotic people. back to the issue, soldiers who went to iraq by chose or the children and women.

Silly, uninformed post. It may have worked a year ago, but Iraq is not much of an issue, Barack's problem is going to be how to step back from his withdrawal schedules. Biggest problem today, not saying November, is the economy.

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what may have worked say we shouldent let people die for no reason. obviously iraq is an issue we are at war that effects everything including economy. i do think Barack needs to shut up about withdrawal and finish what was started instead of throwing up hands and stoping.

it's the economy stupid......

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we have an election coming up between the left and the rights. the main detmering factor will be the war in iraq. the only probelm in america is we are done fighting iraq people!!!! right now we are over in iraq not to fight iraq but terrorests. in simple words we are training iraq to protect itself. we are fighting terrorsts because we are friends with alot of the middle eastern countries. these countries asked us to be there and help them through their hardship. on 9/11 we were attacked. you people against the war on terror are saying the fathers, mothers, uncles and aunts, fire fighters, police, and soldiers die in vain. you want to let all the people die in vain. i realize that soldiers will die, there is a few things wrong with using that as an defense. the draft is gone the soldiers chose to go to iraq. i do realize there has been corruption in that catogory but still. i am not saying o well they died. i see soilders as angels welling to die for their country those are patriotic people. back to the issue, soldiers who went to iraq by chose or the children and women.

I agree.

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Yep, that is what I was saying. I must say, I didn't understand his reply.

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Whether the issue is Iraq or the economy, BO is in trouble. People aren't going to like his socialist ideas for raising taxes and they're not going to like his cut and run policy either.

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War affects EVERYTHING. Open up any history book and you can see that war has numerous repercutions on everything, including the economy. The economy is not an isolated institute. Everything is interconnected. So if you talk about how the economy is doing, you are also talking about how the Iraq war is affecting the economy.


Didn't you guys learn this in Political Science in college.

Yeah, so what? I mean about war 'affecting everything'? Speak to the specifics you addressed in the beginning. No strawmen, in this case I've been cited in two history text books I contributed to. I have ba's in both history and pol. sci. I'm certified to teach econ at high school level.

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I was replying to Kathianne's comment about the economy being the issue of the day. I was saying that when you talk about the economy you are also talking about oil, war, supply, demand, the deficit,etc. since they all affect each other. If the price of oil goes up, so do the prices of food, entertainment, and basically everything else, which would affect the economy. Investors and companies look at everything they can that would affect the economy and make an educated decision. Thus, everything affects everything. The US economy is directly tied to the war in Iraq and other political issues.

The oil problem existed prior to 9/11, it will remain a problem until good alternatives are developed. The war didn't cause the crisis.

Now how is Iraq, rather than Afghanistan going to effect the election?

The problem you set for yourself is that the public and Congress agreed with Iraq. Yes there were die-hard critics, but until the Golden Dome Mosque was hit, most supported the war in Iraq.

As the surge has made things in Iraq better, even the press can't ignore what's happening. There's that pesky ABC poll that shows while Iraqis do not have great affinity for the US, they are liking the US soldier just fine. The majority want the US out of Iraq, just not for the forseeable future.

Funny thing about the American electorate, you will not see polls showing a great turn around in perception of whether the war was right or not, but you will notice that the support for quick withdrawal is waning. We can say we disagreed with it or it was mishandled, but if it can be done correctly, get it done, don't lose.

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no what you dont understand is that war really did effect everything from the start. if you look at the oil prices and the whole oil idea it deffently changed when war was decleard. if you have been listening to the politics of this election, you would know that the withdraw of troops is infact a big topic in todays politics. please i ask you research, then come back after you know what your saying is true. in your last thread you implyed, that I said the war had begain the oil crisis, i did not say in started the crises i was implying it worsined it. i am also awear that congress and people agreed at the beginning, the past is the past. the problem is that they say we should withdraw. my point at the beginning was that the war is important to this country, and we should not withdraw but finish.

Ok, what's a "detmering" factor?????????

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Right from the start, I'm not being mean, I need to know. Is English your first language? Are you an American?

I do know that what I'm saying is true, which you seemed to direct me to find out.

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