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05-21-2008, 12:26 AM
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Rep Power: 78 | | | Where is Iraq? May 20, 2008 -- DO we still have troops in Iraq? Is there still a conflict over there?
If you rely on the so-called mainstream media, you may have difficulty answering those questions these days. As Iraqi and Coalition forces pile up one success after another, Iraq has magically vanished from the headlines.
Want a real "inconvenient truth?" Progress in Iraq is powerful and accelerating.
But that fact isn't helpful to elite media commissars and cadres determined to decide the presidential race over our heads. How dare our troops win? Even worse, Iraqi troops are winning. Daily.
You won't see that above the fold in The New York Times. And forget the Obama-intoxicated news networks - they've adopted his story line that the clock stopped back in 2003.
To be fair to the quit-Iraq-and-save-the-terrorists media, they have covered a few recent stories from Iraq:
* When a rogue US soldier used a Koran for target practice, journalists pulled out all the stops to turn it into "Abu Ghraib, The Sequel."
Unforgivably, the Army handled the situation well. The "atrocity" didn't get the traction the whorespondents hoped for.
* When a battered, bleeding al Qaeda managed to set off a few bombs targeting Sunni Arabs who'd turned against terror, that, too, received delighted media play.
* As long as Baghdad-based journalists could hope that the joint US-Iraqi move into Sadr City would end disastrously, we were treated to a brief flurry of headlines.
* A few weeks back, we heard about another Iraqi company - 100 or so men - who declined to fight. The story was just delicious, as far as the media were concerned.
Then tragedy struck: As in Basra the month before, absent-without-leave (and hiding in Iran) Muqtada al Sadr quit under pressure from Iraqi and US troops. The missile and mortar attacks on the Green Zone stopped. There's peace in the streets.
Today, Iraqi soldiers, not militia thugs, patrol the lanes of Sadr City, where waste has replaced roadside bombs as the greatest danger to careless footsteps. US advisers and troops support the effort, but Iraq's government has taken another giant step forward in establishing law and order.
My fellow Americans, have you read or seen a single interview with any of the millions of Iraqis in Sadr City or Basra who are thrilled that the gangster militias are gone from their neighborhoods? http://www.nypost.com/seven/05202008...out_111606.htm
Why is this not suprising?
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05-21-2008, 12:42 AM
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Rep Power: 44 | | | Are you really such a boob that you don't recognize right-wing propoganda?
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Originally Posted by Dogger Are you really such a boob that you don't recognize right-wing propoganda? | Ohh it is right wing propaganda when things go well and the "truth" when all the leftoid media does is report bad news. I got ya.
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Ohh it is right wing propaganda when things go well and the "truth" when all the leftoid media does is report bad news. I got ya. | Learn to read, and then read the article. It has an obvious bias, which is typical for a Murdoch operation.
What you call leftoid media is the corporate controlled media that helped Bush spread the lies that got us into war. What the hell is leftist about that?
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05-21-2008, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogger Learn to read, and then read the article. It has an obvious bias, which is typical for a Murdoch operation.
What you call leftoid media is the corporate controlled media that helped Bush spread the lies that got us into war. What the hell is leftist about that? |
Well, if you are paying attention, its obvious Iraq is out of the headlines. Things are going a lot better in Iraq recently, hmmm....
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Originally Posted by jreeves Well, if you are paying attention, its obvious Iraq is out of the headlines. Things are going a lot better in Iraq recently, hmmm.... | Except that I hear news from Iraq everyday, including whether the reduction in violence is due to the surge or the practice of paying off the people who used to attack our soldiers. Maybe if you weren't watching Faux you'd be better informed about these things.
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Originally Posted by Dogger Except that I hear news from Iraq everyday, including whether the reduction in violence is due to the surge or the practice of paying off the people who used to attack our soldiers. Maybe if you weren't watching Faux you'd be better informed about these things. | Evidently you have a private reporter in Iraq broadcasting for News for left wing nut jobs then.
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Originally Posted by jreeves blah, bla, bl . . . . | You're so slow it isn't fun any more. It's just sad. Go play with your mouse, Lenny.
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Originally Posted by Dogger You're so slow it isn't fun any more. It's just sad. Go play with your mouse, Lenny. | I know, you were trying to deflect again. I was just holding you to the subject. 
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Originally Posted by jreeves I know, you were trying to deflect again. I was just holding you to the subject.  | God, you are so boring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .
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Originally Posted by Dogger God, you are so boring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . | How is the article inaccurate?
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Originally Posted by jreeves How is the article inaccurate? | Too late, Lenny. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .
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Originally Posted by Dogger Too late, Lenny. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . | In other words you can not answer the question, You are pathetic. You can not answer most questions put to you or even defend your idiotic claims. The only Lenny here is you.
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt In other words you can not answer the question, You are pathetic. You can not answer most questions put to you or even defend your idiotic claims. The only Lenny here is you. | No, I just got bored. I'm only willing to waste so much time on a poser.
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Originally Posted by Dogger No, I just got bored. I'm only willing to waste so much time on a poser. | Sure thing, you make a claim and then when challenged on it can not provide an answer. Poser indeed.
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