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04-09-2008, 10:00 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | A Dick smacking reminder... I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we were going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we'd have had to hunt him down. And once we'd done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we'd have had to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi'i government or a Kurdish government or Ba'athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable? I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it's my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq.
—Cheney at the Washington Institute's Soref Symposium, April 29, 1991
"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." --March 16, 2003
"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." -- on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005 |
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04-09-2008, 10:07 AM
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04-09-2008, 10:08 AM
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Rep Power: 349 | | | Amazing how his brain deteriorated between 1991 and 2003.
Or maybe it's that he went to work for Haliburton in 1995.....
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04-09-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jillian Amazing how his brain deteriorated between 1991 and 2003.
Or maybe it's that he went to work for Haliburton in 1995..... |
No no no! It was 9/11, remember? That changed everything. Enemies of America spent over a decade planning and executing their once in a lifetime coup de grâce, resulting in casualties totalling ~.001% of the US population and that made plunging into an intractable quagmire well worth the cost in lives and tax dollars. How is that not obvious?  | 
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Originally Posted by manifold No no no! It was 9/11, remember? That changed everything. Enemies of America spent over a decade planning and executing their once in a lifetime coup de grâce, resulting in casualties totalling ~.001% of the US population and that made plunging into an intractable quagmire well worth the cost in lives and tax dollars. How is that not obvious?  | Silly moi! 
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04-09-2008, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jillian Silly moi!  | And lets not forget that included among the 9/11 terrorists were exactly zero Iraqis.  | 
04-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by manifold And lets not forget that included among the 9/11 terrorists were exactly zero Iraqis.  | I noticed that too. Always felt that attacking Iraq after being attacked by a bunch of Saudi Nationals was kind of like if we had attacked mexico after the japanese bombed pearl harbor.
but you know, we might have upset brother bandar.
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04-09-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jillian Amazing how his brain deteriorated between 1991 and 2003.
Or maybe it's that he went to work for Haliburton in 1995..... | RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So? | 
04-09-2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by manifold No no no! It was 9/11, remember? That changed everything. Enemies of America spent over a decade planning and executing their once in a lifetime coup de grâce, resulting in casualties totalling ~.001% of the US population and that made plunging into an intractable quagmire well worth the cost in lives and tax dollars. How is that not obvious?  | Well, so long as there weren't THAT many innocent Americans killed, I guess we can sympathize with the killers....
Americans deserve to die, after all....
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04-09-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravir RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So? | He has as much respect for those numbers as I do. Where did they come from? A CNN poll of CNN viewers? Peer pressure isn't everything, jello minded friends. Sometimes you just need to do the right thing.
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04-09-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba Well, so long as there weren't THAT many innocent Americans killed, I guess we can sympathize with the killers....
Americans deserve to die, after all.... |
THAT many???
There were exactly zero Americans killed by Iraqis on 9/11. | 
04-09-2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba He has as much respect for those numbers as I do. Where did they come from? A CNN poll of CNN viewers? Peer pressure isn't everything, jello minded friends. Sometimes you just need to do the right thing. | You're quite the laughable fucking hypocrite in case you didn't know. If it were a democrat that got us into Iraq, you'd be dead set against it. You know it, I know it and God knows it. | 
04-09-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba He has as much respect for those numbers as I do. Where did they come from? A CNN poll of CNN viewers? Peer pressure isn't everything, jello minded friends. Sometimes you just need to do the right thing. | They are a reflection of every poll done in the last year.
I agree, Cheney has as much respect for those Americans as you do. Basically, none. | 
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba Well, so long as there weren't THAT many innocent Americans killed, I guess we can sympathize with the killers.... | Who was sympathizing with the hijackers? I think they were sympathizing with the people, who had nothing to do with 9/11, who got attacked in the aftermath. Quote: |
Americans deserve to die, after all....
| Who said that? Oh wait, nobody. Nice lie there. | 
04-09-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by manifold THAT many???
There were exactly zero Americans killed by Iraqis on 9/11. | I wasn't talking about Iraqis. I was talking about terrorists.
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