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03-18-2008, 07:28 PM
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BAGHDAD — Amid tears and wails, mourners in the southern city of Najaf on Tuesday began burying victims from a suicide bombing that killed nearly 50 worshipers and injured dozens of others just before evening prayers Monday in nearby Karbala .
In Baghdad , a long-anticipated Iraqi national reconciliation conference began with great fanfare, then quickly dissolved into the usual sectarian and political stalemates that have marred several similar gatherings in recent years.
But Vice President Dick Cheney gave an upbeat view of conditions in Iraq as he concluded his unannounced trip to mark the fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion. Cheney also defended the toppling of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein as part of the struggle against terrorism following the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
| Tuesday's roster of attacks included two roadside bombs in Baghdad — one targeting civilians at a market in Shaab, the other at a busy intersection in al Bunook— that killed four Iraqis and wounded at least 13, authorities said. A car bomb outside an electronics store in Mosul killed three and wounded 40, the U.S. military said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2883358 |
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03-18-2008, 07:32 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | He is as delusional today as he was when he took off office. He will always expand the BIG LIE that has made his friends rich.
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03-18-2008, 07:39 PM
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Rep Power: 158 | | | I really do believe that there are two sociopaths in the White House. That is the only way I can even begin to explain the two of them. Only someone without a conscience could possibly say what Cheney did and keep a straight face. | 
03-18-2008, 08:05 PM
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Rep Power: 163 | | | Are you people sane? Do you have delusional conditions related to Bush and Cheney?
He PROPERLY linked the Iraq war to terrorism which is DIRECTLY related to the events of 9/11.
Now go ahead and QUOTE for me where he said Saddam Hussein had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. I will wait.
Again for you delusional people we invaded Iraq because of terrorism. The justification was among others, that Saddam Hussein was a direct threat to the region and would become a direct threat to us. That he was looking for terrorists to attack us and that he would eventually give those terrorists WMDs to do said attacks.
AND amazingly, the papers we captured PROVE that theory was correct.
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03-18-2008, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rayboyusmc Tuesday's roster of attacks included two roadside bombs in Baghdad — one targeting civilians at a market in Shaab, the other at a busy intersection in al Bunook— that killed four Iraqis and wounded at least 13, authorities said. A car bomb outside an electronics store in Mosul killed three and wounded 40, the U.S. military said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2883358 | No sale. If you aren't intelligent enough to break that simple statement down and comprehend its meaning, you're either dumb or you don't want to.
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03-18-2008, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Are you people sane? Do you have delusional conditions related to Bush and Cheney?
He PROPERLY linked the Iraq war to terrorism which is DIRECTLY related to the events of 9/11.
Now go ahead and QUOTE for me where he said Saddam Hussein had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. I will wait.
Again for you delusional people we invaded Iraq because of terrorism. The justification was among others, that Saddam Hussein was a direct threat to the region and would become a direct threat to us. That he was looking for terrorists to attack us and that he would eventually give those terrorists WMDs to do said attacks.
AND amazingly, the papers we captured PROVE that theory was correct. |
Slice it how you like, nuance it as you wish, fluff it, powder it, pump it up. It still doesn't work. Iraq was invaded for its oil. Bush is showing how out of touch with reality he is at the moment, yukking it up as the US economy falls into recession. Cheney is shlemping around like a wraith pronouncing how wonder the invasion went and how the occupation is just going along swimmingly. Disconnected from reality, the pair of them.
I hope Bush has room for Cheney in Uruguay, they might both need a bolthole when the full truth comes out. | 
03-18-2008, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Diuretic Slice it how you like, nuance it as you wish, fluff it, powder it, pump it up. It still doesn't work. Iraq was invaded for its oil. Bush is showing how out of touch with reality he is at the moment, yukking it up as the US economy falls into recession. Cheney is shlemping around like a wraith pronouncing how wonder the invasion went and how the occupation is just going along swimmingly. Disconnected from reality, the pair of them.
I hope Bush has room for Cheney in Uruguay, they might both need a bolthole when the full truth comes out. | Ahh that old lie. Yup we sure made out on the oil deal didn't we. YES it was about oil. About ensuring the oil is free to flow and not controlled by a madman. Remind me how much oil we stole from Iraq.
The US didn't even get oil FROM Iraq before the invasion and as far as I know we still don't get a lot from there.
You and the rest should see a shrink or therapist for those delusions you have.
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03-19-2008, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Ahh that old lie. Yup we sure made out on the oil deal didn't we. YES it was about oil. About ensuring the oil is free to flow and not controlled by a madman. Remind me how much oil we stole from Iraq.
The US didn't even get oil FROM Iraq before the invasion and as far as I know we still don't get a lot from there.
You and the rest should see a shrink or therapist for those delusions you have. | I could show you the evidence and you'd tell me I made it up.
It's not about you. It's not about the US. It's about the corporations. They've got the oil locked up. Iraq has the second largest oil fields in the world. Think about it for a moment. Does the phrase "supply and demand" ring a bell? If that oil was let onto the world market, if there was a huge oil glut, that is there was a huge supply and just the usual demand, what happens? Yes, that's right, the price goes down. That means oil companies and associated corporations get lower profits and not the highest profits they've ever had - which somehow are aligned to the period of the invasion and occupation.
The war wasn't about the US, it was Bush and Cheney using the US military to make sure that Iraq's oil was locked up through a puppet government and held for the use of US oil corporations. Bad lack for them, the planned puppet government plan went awry and a Shi'ite government sympathetic to Iran - hello President Ahmadinejad, how about you drop in for a coffee - are in place.
People have been killed so that US oil corporations could make sure the reserves were held for them and that those reserves didn't get onto the world oil market. Did you think of that? Did you think it was possible that Saddam may have been about to sell a lot of oil and sell it in Euros?
As Smedley Butler put it, war is a racket and this one is the biggest racket of all. The Mafia are looking on in pure envy.
And since you see fit to use the term "the old lie" - do you remember Wilfred Owen? The old lie - dulce et decorum est - except it should be updated to - 'tis a sweet and noble thing to do, to die for Exxon.
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03-19-2008, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Diuretic I could show you the evidence and you'd tell me I made it up.
It's not about you. It's not about the US. It's about the corporations. They've got the oil locked up. Iraq has the second largest oil fields in the world. Think about it for a moment. Does the phrase "supply and demand" ring a bell? If that oil was let onto the world market, if there was a huge oil glut, that is there was a huge supply and just the usual demand, what happens? Yes, that's right, the price goes down. That means oil companies and associated corporations get lower profits and not the highest profits they've ever had - which somehow are aligned to the period of the invasion and occupation.
The war wasn't about the US, it was Bush and Cheney using the US military to make sure that Iraq's oil was locked up through a puppet government and held for the use of US oil corporations. Bad lack for them, the planned puppet government plan went awry and a Shi'ite government sympathetic to Iran - hello President Ahmadinejad, how about you drop in for a coffee - are in place.
People have been killed so that US oil corporations could make sure the reserves were held for them and that those reserves didn't get onto the world oil market. Did you think of that? Did you think it was possible that Saddam may have been about to sell a lot of oil and sell it in Euros?
As Smedley Butler put it, war is a racket and this one is the biggest racket of all. The Mafia are looking on in pure envy.
And since you see fit to use the term "the old lie" - do you remember Wilfred Owen? The old lie - dulce et decorum est - except it should be updated to - 'tis a sweet and noble thing to do, to die for Exxon. | You need to post this delusional crap in the conspiracy thread where it belongs.
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03-19-2008, 08:45 PM
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Rep Power: 57 | | | He PROPERLY linked the Iraq war to terrorism which is DIRECTLY related to the events of 9/11.
Al Qaeda wasn't in iraq when you invaded, and Saddam wasn't supporting them. In fact, he considered them his enemy. | 
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance He PROPERLY linked the Iraq war to terrorism which is DIRECTLY related to the events of 9/11.
Al Qaeda wasn't in iraq when you invaded, and Saddam wasn't supporting them. In fact, he considered them his enemy. | Are you retarded? The war on terror was never JUST about one group. I realize your to STUPID to grasp that concept but try, it may shake your world view up.
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03-19-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Are you retarded? The war on terror was never JUST about one group. I realize your to STUPID to grasp that concept but try, it may shake your world view up. | Why would we care if he supported anti-iranian MEK rebels and terrorists? That's iran's problem.
As for palastinain Hamas - Hamas has never attacked the US, and has never threatened to do so. Their grevience is with israel. Most arab countries give money to hamas and other palestinian nationalists.
What kind of moron starts a war over iraqi support of anti-iranian MEK and Hamas? | 
03-19-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance Why would we care if he supported anti-iranian MEK rebels and terrorists? That's iran's problem.
As for palastinain Hamas - Hamas has never attacked the US, and has never threatened to do so. Their grevience is with israel. Most arab countries give money to hamas and other palestinian nationalists.
What kind of moron starts a war over iraqi support of anti-iranian MEK and Hamas? | What kind of moron ignores reality even when we have the documents to prove the lie they keep spouting? Ohh wait, I know the answer, retards so obsessed with Bush they would condemn him if he did every thing they demanded.
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt What kind of moron ignores reality even when we have the documents to prove the lie they keep spouting? Ohh wait, I know the answer, retards so obsessed with Bush they would condemn him if he did every thing they demanded. |
Answer the question please.
Why would we start a trillion dollar war, because saddam gave support to anti-iranian terrorists, and (like most all other arab countries) to palestinian Hamas. A group which has never attacked the U.S. ? | 
03-19-2008, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance Answer the question please.
Why would we start a trillion dollar war, because saddam gave support to anti-iranian terrorists, and (like most all other arab countries) to palestinian Hamas. A group which has never attacked the U.S. ? | Your question is not correct moron. So why would I answer it? It is like asking some one something like " Have you quit beating your wife yet?" It assumes things that are simply NOT true. Things we have proof are NOT true, Things our intelligence told us before the war were NOT true.
Get a new line retard.
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