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07-20-2008, 01:12 AM
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Rep Power: 7 | | | Kidnappers say British hostage commits suicide Kidnappers claim British hostage in Iraq has killed himself - Times Online Quote:
The kidnappers of five British hostages seized in Baghdad last year have claimed in a videotaped statement that one of the men has killed himself.
According to the statement, the hostage — named only as Jason — died on May 25, four days before the first anniversary of the abduction.
The claim is made in a video passed to The Sunday Times in Baghdad last week. Another hostage is shown appealing for the British government to hasten the men’s release.
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07-20-2008, 02:13 AM
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07-20-2008, 02:38 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | Well, he either did or they killed him accidentally.
A dead hostage is pretty goddamned useless.
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07-20-2008, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Epsilon Delta Well, he either did or they killed him accidentally.
A dead hostage is pretty goddamned useless. | Yep, but even if he did kill himself, his blood is on the kidnappers hands.
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07-20-2008, 09:02 AM
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Rep Power: 203 | | | Yep, just like it's on our hands if any innocent person committed suicide in gitmo.
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07-20-2008, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravi Yep, just like it's on our hands if any innocent person committed suicide in gitmo. | hostages are the same as people captured in battle ? 
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07-20-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck hostages are the same as people captured in battle ?  | You missed the word innocent in my post.
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07-20-2008, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravi You missed the word innocent in my post. | uh no-- I guess I should have asked " What innocent people at Gitmo"?
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07-20-2008, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck uh no-- I guess I should have asked " What innocent people at Gitmo"? | I have no way of knowing if any of them are innocent or not...do you?
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07-20-2008, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravi I have no way of knowing if any of them are innocent or not...do you? | thats correct--you dont. So assuming they are simply to imply that Americans are just like Iraqi hostage takers is silly.
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07-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck thats correct--you dont. So assuming they are simply to imply that Americans are just like Iraqi hostage takers is silly. | I'm not assuming that at all.
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07-20-2008, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravi I'm not assuming that at all. | oh I get it ---you are just educating us with a little reminder that if you are keeping someone against their will, you are responsible for them. gee thanks ! 
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07-20-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck oh I get it ---you are just educating us with a little reminder that if you are keeping someone against their will, you are responsible for them. gee thanks !  | dillo, I think you have a reading comprehension problem.
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07-20-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravi dillo, I think you have a reading comprehension problem. | his comment made me laugh out loud...you were sorta asking for it with that comparison, no?
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07-20-2008, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Glori.B his comment made me laugh out loud...you were sorta asking for it with that comparison, no? | No shit, at least have the balls to stand by what you were implying Ravi.
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