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Old 07-02-2008, 04:55 PM
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Ex-Agent Says CIA Ignored Iran Facts

A former CIA operative who says he tried to warn the agency about faulty intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs now contends that CIA officials also ignored evidence that Iran had suspended work on a nuclear bomb.

The onetime undercover agent, who has been barred by the CIA from using his real name, filed a motion in federal court late Friday asking the government to declassify legal documents describing what he says was a deliberate suppression of findings on Iran that were contrary to agency views at the time.

The former operative alleged in a 2004 lawsuit that the CIA fired him after he repeatedly clashed with senior managers over his attempts to file reports that challenged the conventional wisdom about weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. Key details of his claim have not been made public because they describe events the CIA deems secret.

The consensus view on Iran's nuclear program shifted dramatically last December with the release of a landmark intelligence report that concluded that Iran halted work on nuclear weapons design in 2003. The publication of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran undermined the CIA's rationale for censoring the former officer's lawsuit, said his attorney, Roy Krieger.

"On five occasions he was ordered to either falsify his reporting on WMD in the Near East, or not to file his reports at all," Krieger said in an interview.



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Serious stuff, the above.

But here's how it goes.

Even if this guy can prove his allegations with these documents, nothing whatever will be done about it.

Bush will pass go collect his POTUS pension, and we will still be stuck in Iraq.

And here is still further proof, fellow citizens, that we fell though the looking glass into KafkaLand...

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Serious stuff, the above.

But here's how it goes.

Even if this guy can prove his allegations with these documents, nothing whatever will be done about it.

Bush will pass go collect his POTUS pension, and we will still be stuck in Iraq.

And here is still further proof, fellow citizens, that we fell though the looking glass into KafkaLand...
After Bush's last misleading facts..Alot of us will be watching now.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:44 PM
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After Bush's last misleading facts..Alot of us will be watching now.
Yeah.... all Bush


All other intel at that time, foreign and domestic, told a different story





oh.... wait


IT DIDN'T
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A former CIA operative who says he tried to warn the agency about faulty intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs now contends that CIA officials also ignored evidence that Iran had suspended work on a nuclear bomb.

The onetime undercover agent, who has been barred by the CIA from using his real name, filed a motion in federal court late Friday asking the government to declassify legal documents describing what he says was a deliberate suppression of findings on Iran that were contrary to agency views at the time.

The former operative alleged in a 2004 lawsuit that the CIA fired him after he repeatedly clashed with senior managers over his attempts to file reports that challenged the conventional wisdom about weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. Key details of his claim have not been made public because they describe events the CIA deems secret.

The consensus view on Iran's nuclear program shifted dramatically last December with the release of a landmark intelligence report that concluded that Iran halted work on nuclear weapons design in 2003. The publication of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran undermined the CIA's rationale for censoring the former officer's lawsuit, said his attorney, Roy Krieger.

"On five occasions he was ordered to either falsify his reporting on WMD in the Near East, or not to file his reports at all," Krieger said in an interview.



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This agent's work was so censored that the CIA approved the release of the NIE report that stated Iran had suspended it's nuclear program. Oh ok I get it now...
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Do you have anything of substance to add or just rhetoric?
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Do you have anything of substance to add or just rhetoric?
That wasn't rhetoric, that was a nice piece of background colour. It was a lovely segue, in keeping with the theme of the thread, a seamless, delightful and smooth support to the central idea, a sublime joining of ideas and emotions that helped shore up the central thesis of the thread.

And then you fucked it up. Philistine!
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That wasn't rhetoric, that was a nice piece of background colour. It was a lovely segue, in keeping with the theme of the thread, a seamless, delightful and smooth support to the central idea, a sublime joining of ideas and emotions that helped shore up the central thesis of the thread.

And then you fucked it up. Philistine!
More rhetoric, empty of substance....
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More rhetoric, empty of substance....
Who died and made you the referee? Stop being a twat.
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Who died and made you the referee? Stop being a twat.
The only twat here is you. Another word would be troll.
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Even more----
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That wasn't rhetoric, that was a nice piece of background colour. It was a lovely segue, in keeping with the theme of the thread, a seamless, delightful and smooth support to the central idea, a sublime joining of ideas and emotions that helped shore up the central thesis of the thread.

And then you fucked it up. Philistine!
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