According to the former US ambassador to the UN

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...FxFoQD8UHRAO80

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this is hardly news. Of course the policies of BushCo. and their supporters made Iran stronger.

Talking out your as, as usual. Post WWII US policy toward Iran in general and support for the Shah made the current government in Iran hostile toward the US. I believe if you check your 3rd grade history book, you'll see those were Roosevelt/Truman policies.

Need we comment on WHO was President when Iran displayed its open hostility toward the US?

If anyone's made Iran stronger, it's do nothing ostriches like you who refuse to admit Iran is enriching uranium. But you'll damned sure be the first to claim it happened on Bush's watch when Iran parades ICBMs down "Mainstreet" in Tehran.

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if i where Iran i would feel it was imperative to the future security of my nation to enrich uranium.. because if i didn't i would suffer the same fate as Iraq.. but if i did i would be treated more like pakistan or Israel or Korea
hey remember Korea anyone..seems there's some humans rights violations..wmbs brutal dictator stuff going on over there..maybe a little shock and awe and occupation to drive out all the terrorist in Korea would be a more noble endeavour

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Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

I'm sure you WOULD feel that way since you are one of the ones around here incapable of identifying who the bad guys are.

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So the bad guys are those who...?

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

According to you? Or me? Based on your posts, the bad guys are your own government while you defend absolute scumbags. Kinda speaks for itself.

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Well, if we're gonna be partisan about this, why don't you remind us who ordered the coup in the 50s?

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Wow. You're third grade history class had a lesson on the 1953 Iranian coup? Astonishing. We didn't even cover any iranian history in my high school classes. So, either you went to an elementary school for gifted, genius children, or your lying and pulling shit out of your ass.

It was the british who wanted to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran. Eishenhower helped them, in 1953. Your love of any and all things republican is showing...in keeping with your tradition of loving your party, more than your country.

Iranian hate for the US goes back to the 1950s. Carter totally bungled it. But pinning it on carter, agains shows your partisan love for everything GOP.

And stop wetting your diapers about iranian ICBMS. There's no evidence of an active nucelar program, inspectors are on the ground, and There's no reason to go to war with them at this point, we should use diplomacy and pressure.

Actually, the majority of Iranians are under the age of 30. They have little, if any recollection of the Shah, let alone the British and US backed coup of 1953. Much of the Iranian population is surprisingly pro-American. Or, at least they were before the invasion of Iraq. These are people who have lived their entire adult lives under the thumbs of the repressive theocratic government. Iran is an educated country, and historically has been fairly open as a cross-route for centuries of trade.

There was a demonstration in Iran after an Ireland-Iran World Cup qualifying match where thousands of people took to the streets in a pro-American demonstration.

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[quote=Toro;647093]. [QUOTEthat is completely ignorant of their recent history and politics or the history of US interventionism ?..you just made most of that up of the top of your head didn't you

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

So, what's the justification for invading it again?



Yeah, there's stupid people EVERYWHERE on Earth Toro, not just here.

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It will never get to that point. The Israelis will take it out like they in 1981 in Iraq and just last year in Syria.

We'll leave N Korea to the Chinese and Japanese. They are more than capable of being our proxies there.

I guess if its not on PrisonPlanet, it isn't true.

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here. Someone is projecting again.

Happy birthday to me.

Urah!

I AM

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