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Old 12-10-2007, 04:09 PM
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Ahmadinejad Has Screwed Us Again!

How They Stole the Bomb From Us

Uri Avnery

"There is one little consolation in the new situation. While it seems as if the immediate danger of annihilation has disappeared, there is a feeling that we are alone, on our own again.

That is another sign of Jewish uniqueness: We are facing the entire world alone. As in the days of the Holocaust, all the Goyim have forsaken us. Face to face with the Iranian monster which threatens to devour us, we now stand here alone.

All our media are repeating this in unison, like an orchestra which does not need a conductor, because it knows the music by heart."

http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery12102007.html
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:21 PM
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That is another sign of Jewish uniqueness: We are facing the entire world alone. As in the days of the Holocaust, all the Goyim have forsaken us. Face to face with the Iranian monster which threatens to devour us, we now stand here alone.



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Old 12-10-2007, 06:19 PM
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the focus has changed maybe someone will think again about the Palestinians and peace.
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That is another sign of Jewish uniqueness: We are facing the entire world alone. As in the days of the Holocaust, all the Goyim have forsaken us. Face to face with the Iranian monster which threatens to devour us, we now stand here alone.
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We are the only power in the mideast that has nukes, and a means of delivering them over long distances. We think Iran will get them eventually, and we'd like to put them in their place before they get too big for their britches. Not with our own troops and resources, mind you.

edit: this is not the author's view, he is skewering that viewpoint.

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How about this if Israel is so sure of its Intel and wants to attack the middle east let them..after are troops are home safely
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We are the only power in the mideast that has nukes, and a means of delivering them over long distances. We think Iran will get them eventually, and we'd like to put them in their place before they get too big for their britches. Not with our own troops and resources, mind you.

edit: this is not the author's view, he is skewering that viewpoint.
Translation: Let's allow the weaker powers today, those calling for killing homosexuals, (whoops, they are already); keeping women from full citizenship, (whoops, they are already); enriching uranium, (whoops they are already); exporting their weapons and political philosophy, (whoops they are already), become stronger or even equal. Then we'll deal with them.

Why does this remind me of WWII?
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Can't imagine why Jews would feel persecuted. BTW ...where's WJ to help with this fucking dogpile?
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Translation: Let's allow the weaker powers today, those calling for killing homosexuals, (whoops, they are already); keeping women from full citizenship, (whoops, they are already); enriching uranium, (whoops they are already); exporting their weapons and political philosophy, (whoops they are already), become stronger or even equal. Then we'll deal with them.

Why does this remind me of WWII?
translation/ I am a interventionist that wants to interfere with other sovereign nations culture and religious beliefs , laws , social evolution and bring them my brand of morality, like the murder of the unborn , pornography force fed to our children the break down of the family, total materialism where children kill other children for shoes or video games
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Its really no fair to paint all israelis as hand-wringing drama queens. Obviously, this guy needs to calm down. Iran is nowhere close to nuking israel, nor is it even clear thay can or ever will.

That said, there is a wide variety of public opinion in israel. And a substantial, pro-peace, pro-coexistance bloc. The level and variety of debate with respect to the palestinains and iran is substantial there.
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Ahmadinejad Has Screwed Us Again!

How They Stole the Bomb From Us

Uri Avnery

"There is one little consolation in the new situation. While it seems as if the immediate danger of annihilation has disappeared, there is a feeling that we are alone, on our own again.

That is another sign of Jewish uniqueness: We are facing the entire world alone. As in the days of the Holocaust, all the Goyim have forsaken us. Face to face with the Iranian monster which threatens to devour us, we now stand here alone.

All our media are repeating this in unison, like an orchestra which does not need a conductor, because it knows the music by heart."

http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery12102007.html
Sure thing. Let's ignore the fact that Iran has called for the complete destruction of Israel on more than one occasion. And what is Iran's argument? Jews on Arab land? Iranians are Persian, not Arab. There goes that one.

That they're Jews? Agree with that, do you?

You'll dogpile Israel ... where's your condemnation of the Arabs calling themselves "Palestinians" waging a war of terror via cold-blooded murder of noncombatants? Where's your condemnation of a so-called people who exist solely to hate? Your condemnation of a people who believe those that differ from them don't deserve to live?

Yeah, you sure know how to pick a side.
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Its really no fair to paint all israelis as hand-wringing drama queens. Obviously, this guy needs to calm down. Iran is nowhere close to nuking israel, nor is it even clear thay can or ever will.

That said, there is a wide variety of public opinion in israel. And a substantial, pro-peace, pro-coexistance bloc. The level and variety of debate with respect to the palestinains and iran is substantial there.
Actually, the person writing the article is far from a hand-wringing drama queen. I mean, I know that certain parts of the article were cherry-picked to create that impression...and intentionally so, it appears. However, in reading the article, it actually says something quite a bit different.
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the focus has changed maybe someone will think again about the Palestinians and peace.
Maybe the Palestinians will remove the destruction of Israel from their Charter like they agreed to. Seems that should happen first, no?
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Many we need a reading comprehension pill when controversial topics are posted. Please check who wrote this before casting stones. Think first or think period.
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Many we need a reading comprehension pill when controversial topics are posted. Please check who wrote this before casting stones. Think first or think period.
Actually, I think the problem is that you didn't get the sarcasm...maybe it's a cultural thing.

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In any case, perhaps the peace forces should overcome their understandable reservations and try to influence public opinion in a way that would help Olmert turn in this direction.EITHER WAY, one thing is certain: that son of a bitch, Ahmadinejad, has screwed us again.

He has stolen our most precious possession: the Iranian Atomic Threat.
You know he's being tongue in cheek, right? I don't think I misunderstood, nor do I think he's far from where you are... which is why I commented on the cherry-picking from the article.
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Translation: Let's allow the weaker powers today, those calling for killing homosexuals, (whoops, they are already); keeping women from full citizenship, (whoops, they are already); enriching uranium, (whoops they are already); exporting their weapons and political philosophy, (whoops they are already), become stronger or even equal. Then we'll deal with them.

Why does this remind me of WWII?
invading Iran over its nukes has NOTHING to do with your rant against a muslin nation. Absolutely nothing. KIlling homosexuals? Do you have the first iota of PROOF or are we just shooting from the hip this side of the Nuke report? POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY? Look in the fucking mirror, Kath.



It reminds you of ww2 because you think that the quickest way to convince people into aggression with Iran is by forcing a correlation between the nazi treatment of jews to this. let me toss out a hint: THE ENTIRETY OF LIFE CANNOT BE REDUCED DOWN TO A COMPARISON TO THE HOLOCAUST JUST TO CREATE A FRENZY ABOUT ISRAELS ENEMIES.


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