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12-03-2007, 12:18 PM
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Iran halted its nuclear weapons research program years ago, and may be a decade away from developing a nuke, assuming they restarted their nuclear weapons research program
American Intelligence Agencies – New NIE Report on Iran: Quote: NIE: Iran ‘Halted’ Nuclear Weapons Program In 2003, Unlikely To Develop A Weapon In This Decade
A new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released today concludes with “high confidence” that “in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program.” From the report’s findings:
We assess with moderate confidence Tehran had not restarted its nuclear weapons program as of mid-2007, but we do not know whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons.
We continue to assess with moderate-to-high confidence that Iran does not currently have a nuclear weapon.
Tehran’s decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005.
http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf | IAEA Reporting on Iran: Quote:
UN atomic watchdog chief Mohamed ElBaradei said Sunday he had no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons and accused US leaders of adding "fuel to the fire" with recent bellicose rhetoric.
"We haven't received any information there is a parallel, ongoing, active nuclear weapon program," the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency told CNN.
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12-03-2007, 12:42 PM
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Rep Power: 72 | | | listen to the Bushies and it's deja vu all over again!
They'll ignore this just like they ignored the August '01 PDB about OBL!
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12-03-2007, 12:50 PM
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Rep Power: 45 | | | Well shit...if the US intel agencies say they don't have nukes, we should probably assume they do. |
12-03-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by maineman  listen to the Bushies and it's deja vu all over again!
They'll ignore this just like they ignored the August '01 PDB about OBL! | I could have sworn that NeoCons have spent the last few weeks posting here, that they know for a fact Iran is building nuclear bombs, and are merely a year or two away from having a nuclear bomb. |
12-03-2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance Iran halted its nuclear weapons research program years ago, and may be a decade away from developing a nuke, assuming they restarted their nuclear weapons research program
American Intelligence Agencies – New NIE Report on Iran:
IAEA Reporting on Iran: | What's more interesting, they are highly confident Iran stopped 2003, which is when US did what? They may or may not have resumed again.
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12-03-2007, 01:16 PM
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Rep Power: 57 | | | first, before you backpeddle and dance away from your previous assertions kathy, do you admit it looks like you were wrong when you suggested Iran was currently working on nuclear weapons, and was a year or two away from having a bomb? |
12-03-2007, 06:38 PM
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Rep Power: 57 | | Crickets chirping.
Having spent weeks having Bush lovers lecture me that they were simply sure that somehow, somewhere, Iran was building a nuclear bombs. No evidence of course was ever proffered. It was just the collective gut feeling of wingnutotopia.
Gut feelings of neocons on message boards don't count for much:
...because, the collective assessment of all US intelligence agencies (NIE) is that Iran gave up their nuclear weapons program years ago. Though, its still is worth it to keep pressure and inspections on them.
And on the ground inspection by IAEA supports NIE's conclusions: no evidence of a nuclear weapons program.
I guess its good we nipped those lies in the bud, before Bush lovers could trick us into another unneccessary war. 
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12-03-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance Crickets chirping.
Having spent weeks having Bush lovers lecture me that they were simply sure that somehow, somewhere, Iran was building a nuclear bombs. No evidence of course was ever proffered. It was just the collective gut feeling of wingnutotopia.
Gut feelings of neocons on message boards don't count for much:
...because, the collective assessment of all US intelligence agencies (NIE) is that Iran gave up their nuclear weapons program years ago. Though, its still is worth it to keep pressure and inspections on them.
And on the ground inspection by IAEA supports NIE's conclusions: no evidence of a nuclear weapons program.
I guess its good we nipped those lies in the bud, before Bush lovers could trick us into another unneccessary war. | I don't put it past them to still take us into an unjustified unwarranted war in Iran. The PNAC vision is pretty blinding once you've had a drink of that koolaid.
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12-03-2007, 07:37 PM
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the latest NIE concluded: "We do not know whether (Iran) currently intends to develop nuclear weapons." That marked a sharp contrast to an intelligence report two years ago that stated Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapons."
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(same NIE?)Now, in late 2007 the NIE "don't know"
a mere 2 years ago (that would be 2005) this same NIE said Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapons."
SOOOooo...whats you point ?
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But the new assessment found Iran was continuing to develop technical capabilities that could be used to build a bomb and that it would likely be capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon "sometime during the 2010-2015 time-frame."
U.S. Says Iran Halted Nuclear Arms Program
Reuters
U.S. intelligence agencies concluded in findings released on Monday that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons development program in 2003. Following are highlights of the National Intelligence Estimate's key judgments.
-- Iran had a nuclear weapons program but halted it in 2003 and had not restarted it as of mid-2007. The halt applied to design and engineering of an explosive device, such as fuses or shielding, and to covert uranium-conversion activities, according to senior intelligence officials. Other activities such as civilian uranium enrichment and missile development continue.
-- Iran is keeping open the option of developing nuclear weapons, but U.S. intelligence agencies "do not know" whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons. This is a major change from a 2005 intelligence estimate which concluded that Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapons." http://tinyurl.com/2awtrh
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12-03-2007, 07:38 PM
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Rep Power: 15 | | | As usual, the chickenhawks cower away in the face of their own horseshit being reflected back to them in the mirrors of their consciences.
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12-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadCanDance Iran halted its nuclear weapons research program years ago, and may be a decade away from developing a nuke, assuming they restarted their nuclear weapons research program
American Intelligence Agencies – New NIE Report on Iran:
IAEA Reporting on Iran: | These would be the same US intelligence agencies that you all LOVE to quote about being wrong about Saddam's WMDs, right? 
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Rep Power: 15 | | Holy Shit!!!!!!! As much information as has been published concerning the collective information by our intelligence agencies being accurate in denying wmd's existed in Iraq and the cherry picking of the bush cabal to the exclusion of those otherwise more important and accurate assessments is astounding!!!!!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnyL These would be the same US intelligence agencies that you all LOVE to quote about being wrong about Saddam's WMDs, right? | I actually thought better of you, gunny.
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Originally Posted by Psychoblues Holy Shit!!!!!!! As much information as has been published concerning the collective information by our intelligence agencies being accurate in denying wmd's existed in Iraq and the cherry picking of the bush cabal to the exclusion of those otherwise more important and accurate assessments is astounding!!!!!!!!!!
I actually thought better of you, gunny. | What you think of me is irrelevant. Intelligence agencies had 12 years + to collect data on Saddam/Iraq. According to you lefties, it was wrong.
But the second they say what you want to hear ... Iran has no nuclear program ... you'd swear it was Jehovah himself preaching the gospel.
Hypocrites.
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Rep Power: 27 | | | While they still ignore the fact that a mere 2 years ago (that would be 2005) this same NIE said Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapons."
I repeat.....
SOOOooo...whats you point ? Besides the top of their heads...
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Originally Posted by GunnyL What you think of me is irrelevant. Intelligence agencies had 12 years + to collect data on Saddam/Iraq. According to you lefties, it was wrong.
But the second they say what you want to hear ... Iran has no nuclear program ... you'd swear it was Jehovah himself preaching the gospel.
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