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| General Robert E, Lee: Hero or Traitor? I was listening to a debate this morning on Boston radio with James C. Cobb, distinguished Research Professor at the University of Georgia and Natasha Trethewey, a poet and a professor of creative writing at Emory University. ![]() Robert E. Lee unquestionably became an American Icon after the Civil war was over. President Ulysses S. Grant lauded him, President Dwight D. Eisenhower said he was “unsullied as he read the pages of history.” But as the nation stares hard at the sesquicentennial of the War Between the States has the hagiography of some of the battlefield commanders obscured the cause of the war: human bondage? This hour On Point: Robert E. Lee Revisited. The Myth And Legend Of Robert E. Lee | On Point with Tom Ashbrook Last edited by Truthseeker420; 08-01-2011 at 01:09 PM. |
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| Does he get any slack because at that period in our history people were more loyal to their states? |
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| He believed in a Gentry Class. He also swore an oath to the United States when he entered the Military. I have a little more sympathy for the rubes that didn't have slaves, but thought they were defending their homes. Some Rebels couldn't give two shits about slaves.
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| He believed in a Gentry Class. He also swore an oath to the United States when he entered the Military. I have a little more sympathy for the rubes that didn't have slaves, but thought they were defending their homes. Some Rebels couldn't give two shits about slaves. |
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| Both Legally he should have hung for treason as he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Heroic b/c he stood up against what he thought was a tyrant in Lincoln. Through 21st centurary eyes he was a ruthless fuck that wanted to keep people as property and killed his fellow man to do so. Hell, even the History and Military channels shit on him now. His military and leadership skills seem to have been over rated by history.
__________________ Pres Obama is evil. How do I know? Only an evil person would cover up multiple murders to get re-elected. |
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| He believed in a Gentry Class. He also swore an oath to the United States when he entered the Military. I have a little more sympathy for the rubes that didn't have slaves, but thought they were defending their homes. Some Rebels couldn't give two shits about slaves. But honestly..it probably wasn't possible. Unless you were going to get really punitive on the South in general..reconcilation dictated that kindness to be shown to adversaries. In the long run..it really didn't matter. He died shortly after the war..a beaten and broken man.
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| Naw. He believed in a Gentry Class. He also swore an oath to the United States when he entered the Military. I have a little more sympathy for the rubes that didn't have slaves, but thought they were defending their homes. Some Rebels couldn't give two shits about slaves. But honestly..it probably wasn't possible. Unless you were going to get really punitive on the South in general..reconcilation dictated that kindness to be shown to adversaries. In the long run..it really didn't matter. He died shortly after the war..a beaten and broken man. Everything was taken from him.
__________________ Pres Obama is evil. How do I know? Only an evil person would cover up multiple murders to get re-elected. |
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| Both Legally he should have hung for treason as he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Heroic b/c he stood up against what he thought was a tyrant in Lincoln. Through 21st centurary eyes he was a ruthless fuck that wanted to keep people as property and killed his fellow man to do so. Hell, even the History and Military channels shit on him now. His military and leadership skills seem to have been over rated by history. |
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| Naw. He believed in a Gentry Class. He also swore an oath to the United States when he entered the Military. I have a little more sympathy for the rubes that didn't have slaves, but thought they were defending their homes. Some Rebels couldn't give two shits about slaves. But honestly..it probably wasn't possible. Unless you were going to get really punitive on the South in general..reconcilation dictated that kindness to be shown to adversaries. In the long run..it really didn't matter. He died shortly after the war..a beaten and broken man. |
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| Both Legally he should have hung for treason as he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Heroic b/c he stood up against what he thought was a tyrant in Lincoln. Through 21st centurary eyes he was a ruthless fuck that wanted to keep people as property and killed his fellow man to do so. Hell, even the History and Military channels shit on him now. His military and leadership skills seem to have been over rated by history.
__________________ Pres Obama is evil. How do I know? Only an evil person would cover up multiple murders to get re-elected. |
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![]() The greatest man the 19th century produced, on this or any other continent.
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| IMO he was a very good general. IMO morally he was average for a southerner of the time.
__________________ Thanks for putting up with the typos. I most likely typed this on my made in China cellphone. |
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| If the Founding Fathers had lost the American Revolution and had all been hung as traitors, every Queen's Birthday, we'd be discussing how wrong they were to be traitors to King and Country. Those bastards! |
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| From Wiki: Quote: In early 1861, President Abraham Lincoln invited Lee to take command of the entire Union Army. Lee declined because his home state of Virginia was, despite his wishes, seceding from the Union. When Virginia declared its secession from the Union in April 1861, Lee chose to follow his home state.........Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House on April 9, 1865, marking the end of Confederate hopes; the remaining armies soon capitulated. Lee rejected as folly the starting of a guerrilla campaign against the Yankees and called for reconciliation between the North and South. After the war, as a college president of what is now Washington and Lee University, Lee supported President Andrew Johnson's program of Reconstruction and intersectional friendship, while opposing the Radical Republican proposals to give freed slaves the vote and take the vote away from ex-Confederates. He urged them to rethink their position between the North and the South, and the reintegration of former Confederates into the nation's political life. Lee became the great Southern hero of the war, and his popularity grew in the North, as well, after his death in 1870. He remains an iconic figure[8] of American military leadership. |
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