Healthcare Bill Hit Parade!!

I don't care, since they get red-lined and redrafted every passing minute. I won't care until something is finalized. We basically know what the issues are, the prime one being how to pay for any of it. Even the latest Republican plan will cost a trillion or so due to loss of revenue (tax cuts/credits) and offering primarily the same type of "reform" currently offered in the various other proposals at the same time.

Considering advocates of UHC include the nearly 10 million non-Americans as among the 47 million Americans who are uninsured, yes I think they will be covered by this or any other version of UHC. So 10 million people's health care is not major enough?

short answer would be yes! Maggie this one happens to be the working version that Waxman's committee is working on.

LMAO...

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You mean like how cap and trade changed during the conference right? you mean I should wait and not inform people and let people listen to the propaganda comming from the President on this issue rather than the actual bill that is before the house? No thank you I would rather work from the actual legislation they are talking about rather than listen to the person that has made claims such as "unplolyment will not rise above 8.5% with the passage of this bill". If you find this scarry then good Maggie , you should find it scarry because it is. If you have not noticed our nation is deep in dept and with the advent of proposals like this , in an effort to socially norm everyone, some would take this nation down the same path that states like Ca. have already traveled. Perhaps you may one day like to receive a IOU from social security after you spent years paying into it, but personally I don't. So I will continue to post the REAL legislation and NOT the marketing version that the President would have people believe.

So? Shall we all just in lockstep move over to reading your choice of partisan sites and publications? Don't be such a fucking hypocrite by continuing to believe there is only ONE solution to this mess--yours--and that millions of people should be scoffed at for blogging and otherwise writing about the OTHER side.

No. ACCESS TO health care at reasonable costs through insurance is all that will be considered.

Maggie, I think I have pointed out where in the legislation that Illegal Immigrants will be covered under this bill. In fact in the bill EVERYONE is considered automatically covered if they do not opt for a plan and there is NO proof of residence required in it. See ( Medicare/Medicade Section) As I have pointed out to you and others on here many times when there is a LACK of legislation to the contrary it is up to the commissioner to make the decision on who is covered. Further, when there is no legislation to the contrary it is assumed in the affirmitive.

You have not "proven" anything. I read the exchange with Care, and it is a matter of interpretation, and you are wrong. Go to the 14-page analysis by CBO, below, specifically the last paragraph of Page 4. Throughout the analysis, it refers to LEGAL residents.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...-Committee.pdf

So? Shall we all just in lockstep move over to reading your choice of partisan sites and publications? Don't be such a fucking hypocrite by continuing to believe there is only ONE solution to this mess--yours--and that millions of people should be scoffed at for blogging and otherwise writing about the OTHER side.

That's the reason you post blogs by people who write for the DailyKOS and link websites that are funded by ACORN and labor unions....oh ok

Ah yes, it's always a big red flag that someone's got his eyeballs firmly planted in front of FOXNEWS and his ears to LIMBAUGH whenever any topic, any at all, is attempted to be rebutted by injecting the evil ACORN.

You don't even seem to know that DailyKos is an ultra-liberal website. There are very few ultra-liberal Democrats, genius. You're beyong cuckoo. Just dumb.

Far be it from me not to be fair Maggie so you asked , and you will have *smiles* Here is a the Seante Version...

3 SEC. 141. ASSUMPTIONS REGARDING MEDICAID.
4 (a) ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLYING POLICY.—The Com5
mittee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions of the
6 Senate assumes that the provisions of the Affordable
7 Health Choices Act will be considered by the Senate as
8 part of legislation that amends title XIX of the Social Se9
curity Act to implement the following policies:
10 (1) All individuals currently eligible for Med11
icaid will remain eligible for Medicaid.
12 (2) All individuals will be eligible for Medicaid
13 at income levels up to 150 percent of poverty.

http://help.senate.gov/BAI09A84_xml.pdf

umm...I think I was citing Sec. directly from the bill being proposed in the House. Maybe you could show everyone how I have posted partisan sites and publications in this thread?