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Old 07-02-2009, 07:03 PM
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Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"
Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?
Before you write, try Google. The USPS has made profits in recent years, and has shown significant reduction in costs. Overnight services were smart, they identified a need that no one was filling. USPS was unable to fulfill it. Let me know what college you went to so that I can knock it off my son's list of choices!

So, I guess these very mainstream sources are lying.

Post office losing jobs and money - Business - News & Observer

Post office is $1.9 billion in red - USATODAY.com

And here I thought it was da gubbament schools, not colleges, which were supposed to teach kids to read for comprehension.

I'll be sure to knock them off my list of choices.
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Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"
Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?
Before you write, try Google. The USPS has made profits in recent years, and has shown significant reduction in costs. Overnight services were smart, they identified a need that no one was filling. USPS was unable to fulfill it. Let me know what college you went to so that I can knock it off my son's list of choices!
Wait ... what? Babbling is not truth you know. Aside from the great facts Dude posted just before this, you do realize, of course they are cutting costs ... they have no money to spend so they have to. They are obsolete and poorly managed ... the fact that you think they are "doing a good job" ... you are not paying any attention.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.
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Wait ... what? Babbling is not truth you know. Aside from the great facts Dude posted just before this, you do realize, of course they are cutting costs ... they have no money to spend so they have to. They are obsolete and poorly managed ... the fact that you think they are "doing a good job" ... you are not paying any attention.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.
Hey, I got it, let's get some fat-cat Wall Street banker to run it. Then we can be sure it is run efficiently, and for profit. We can even let the fat-cat and his buddies own it! Maybe capitalism is the answer - not.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.

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In China, the fellow that headed the company that put the contaminated baby food on the market was summerily shot. We should have done the same for the CEO of the peanunt butter company whose contaminated product killed several people here in the US.
that guy KNEW what was going on Rocks....but what about an honest mistake,should he be shot too?
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Go fuck yourself, little boy.

When you dry out behind the ears and start paying some of the freight for your beloved socialistic welfare state, then you can come around singing the praises of a career parasite, like Tanqueray Teddy.
That's the best you've got? And, your playing the Tanqueray Teddy card for the third time? "Dry out behind the ears," now that's original. When you've got something that isn't TRITE find me, and I'll hope for a laugh. You know the members pity you.

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were is your little cartoon Derek?.....with out it we are lost...
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with the accompanying cartoon im sure he can grasp that....
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The SOCIALIST - believes that industries should be owned by the people of the nation, not by individuals, and that services like education and health care should be free for everyone. Under socialism, all means of production should be publicly owned. Unlike communists, socialists believe that such things can be achieved through pressure and reform.
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Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well. It's hard for me to imagine them taking over health care. There has got to be a better solution to our health care problems. I believe it's in the private sector, & government needs to get out of the way--allow interstate competition--& do the hard part--by mandating that all citizens obtain coverage--or pay a fine or higher taxes.
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oreo, Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well.


How about these guys?



A letter delivered in a few days, anywhere in the country for a few cents. GM and Chrysler would still be viable if they could pull off a miracle like that!
try working for them Derek and you may have a different opinion...
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Washington, D.C.—Reflecting the continuing shrinkage of direct mail marketing and the changing communication habits of the American public, the U.S. Postal Service reported a net loss of $677 million for May, bringing to $3.4 billion its total losses in the current fiscal year.

In addition, the USPS reported it processed 2.8 billion fewer pieces of mail in May, compared with the same month in 2008.



The USPS is on track to lose about $6 billion in its fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

Postal Service loses $677 million in May as volume declines :: BtoB Magazine

No thanks I'll send mine through e-mail and if it has to get there well...

FEDX or UPS

The difference between them is pretty obvious... the Post Office will tell you they don't use taxpayer funds and are completely on their own. However, that doesn't stop them from going to congress and asking money though....

Washington (AP) - Postmaster General John Potter said Wednesday the financially strapped U.S. Postal Service will run out of money this year without help from Congress.

The only lingering question, Potter told a House subcommittee, is which bills will get paid and which will not. He did say ensuring the payment of workers' salaries comes first. But Potter also said other bills may have to wait.
CNSNews.com - Postal Service Asks Congress for Bailout
Navy if the US govt. OWNS the Post Office,why should they not give them money if they need it....over say some private Co.?....and let me tell ya Navy, Fed X and UPS screw up plenty of times in their deliveries.....i have seen parcels from both dropped off at the wrong house many a time....and the big one is leaving a package at a house that the person whose name is on the package hasnt lived there for quite a while.....if the USPS had quality managers it would be what Derek is saying,but the ones who are dont get heard very much.....and they have WAY too many middle managers....more than half of them are absolutely useless,and these people make pretty good money to do nothing......AND there is no accountability.....
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People don't understand costs in the real world.QUOTE]

Absolutely True, and you are one of them. The USPS has been making profits and cutting costs. Here is the link,

Postal Service Turns a Profit in Q1

Now, do I have to research how SSA gets all those checks out on the third of each month, or do you think you are a big boy, and can Google it yourself? Typical private-sector, always to look on top of things while trying to steal a buck.

thats not what we hear on the inside Derek....the article is just trying to make it seem like things are not that bad....when they are....and something like 80% or better of the monthly checks are direct deposit...
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oreo, Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well.


How about these guys?



A letter delivered in a few days, anywhere in the country for a few cents. GM and Chrysler would still be viable if they could pull off a miracle like that!
Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"
sorry Dude but according to the Fed X and UPS guys on my route those guys are hurting just as bad as the PO....routes are being condensed due to diminishing volume....same as the PO....the FedX guy told me that their volume is down 60%....thats a lot....
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Of course, the USPS has also become a HUGE money pit, that hasn't paid for itself in decades.

But you dumbshits g'head and keep on using it as example of "success".
well that is true and false....it is a money pit for congress.....but they are mandated to break even,so congress takes any excess and uses it on what they want....so if it hasnt "paid" for themselves....well blame congress for not letting them make a small profit...
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Good lord, the postal service is run well??????????????? You libs gotta be kiddin or you are just flat stupid.
not gonna argue....way to many chiefs....but the mail that is delivered is because of the indians....they do the job in spite of the crappy management....
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sorry Dude but according to the Fed X and UPS guys on my route those guys are hurting just as bad as the PO....routes are being condensed due to diminishing volume....same as the PO....the FedX guy told me that their volume is down 60%....thats a lot....
That proves nothing.....Everybody's business is down.
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