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Sounds like a lot of butt hurt because no matter how hard the righties try, Obamacare is marching on.....and soon, the people that are enrolled and finally getting better coverage than they were before, will be crowing over it.....many of them Republicans......so, say whatever you want....your pissing and moaning isn't changing anything....and your party has nothing to offer....which is a bigger failure.....but nice try.

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4 million people sign up for Obamacare
BY BRIAN HUGHES | FEBRUARY 25, 2014 AT 7:07 PM


Roughly 4 million people have signed up for health care plans through Obamacare's exchanges, the Obama administration announced late Tuesday.

Marilyn Tavenner, administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, released the latest number of sign-ups in a blog post, arguing that President Obama's signature domestic achievement had reached a turning point.

“As we head into the last five weeks of this historic open enrollment period, millions of Americans are taking advantage of the new choices they now have to access affordable, quality health care thanks to the Affordable Care Act,” she said.

“The most recent data indicate that approximately 4 million people have now signed up for a private health insurance plan through the federal and state-based marketplaces since Oct. 1," Tavenner added. “A full enrollment report for February will be released in mid-March.”


4 million people sign up for Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com
Are these people signing up because they want to (or) are they being forced to ?
Anyone who prefers to be without healthcare is just a mooch, because no one is exempt from ever getting sick, so I would suspect that people that are signing up realize they need healthcare insurance, and they want it.


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That is the big difference in offering alternatives in a free highly competitive market place, in which should be working to give us the best for less in a large united market place insurance pool that is being managed correctly, instead of it being a forced situation that gives you less (in total benefits), yet for the best of your hard earned money in which you can barley afford to pay into such a thing when all is said and done.
Have you even looked into it? Most people are getting more for their money with the ACA, that was the whole purpose for it. If you want to listen to the lies of the Republican party that claim that it isn't any good, that's your choice, but if you don't even investigate it for yourself, but just repeat what you hear, then you're the fool and deserve what you get.
So your a mooch if you don't need or use healthcare at all ? Many people are and were healthy all of their lives just like me, and I have never had a need for health care really (Dental yes, but I paid out of pocket for that). Now I have always had a healthcare policy just encase I needed it by my choosing, but even so I was jerked around while in these policies by the insurance carriers. I lost money to the real moochers who were the insurance carriers that ran off with my hard earned money more than once. I didn't choose for them to go, but instead they left me and took my money with them. Then the rates kept on going up (take, take, take and take more, and then after that take some more), so who are or were the real moochers here ? Not us that's for sure, but instead it was the ones stealing our money when we had participated as good working class American citizens. Now was Obama's plan the answer to what was going on ? I don't think so, because I think it is miss-directed letting the big dog's off of the hook for their dastardly deeds, and again it put's it all on us instead. This plan is corporate friendly, and citizen unfriendly. Obama has failed us just like the rest had failed us over time, because he has sided with big business over the citizens (of course he has), and a lot of citizens were fooled by it all, and they are still fooled by it all.

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What does this have to do with healthcare ?
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Teachers quitting their jobs

Now that Karen Willmus can get health insurance through Obamacare, she plans to quit teaching 9th grade English at the end of the school year.

The 51-year-old found policies on the Colorado state exchange for about $300 a month. That's less than what she's paying now for employer-sponsored coverage and less than half what she paid on the individual market in 2007.

I'm quitting my job. Thanks Obamacare! - Yahoo Finance

You shouldn't have posted the link....because those with a brain will read the article and realize that the story is actually a positive for Obamacare....but being the closeminded partisan hack that you are, you probably thought it was a bad thing.... people are actually benefitting from it, but dumb rightwingers like you, prefer to keep getting the shaft from insurance companies, how sad is that.......bwahahaha!

From your link:

The report found that Obamacare could reduce the labor force by the equivalent of 2.5 million workers by 2024, as many Americans may opt to work less to retain eligibility for Medicaid or subsidies. That sparked a fresh round of criticism that health reform is hurting the economy.

But for some, Obamacare is allowing them to become entrepreneurs or retire a few years early since they'll be able to find affordable individual coverage for the first time.


Instead of eating bonbons on her couch, Willmus plans to start her own business with her teen daughter publishing materials for non-native English speakers and others looking to improve their literacy. She expects to work even more than she does now and hire two or three people.

Edward Perri's job as a grocery clerk has caused him constant back and knee pain in recent years, but he continued to work because he needed insurance. Obamacare allowed him to retire in December after 39 years, 4 months and 23 days on the job.

His retiring at 57 allowed a more junior employee to move up on the job, said Perri, who is single and lives in Muskegon, Mich. Had Obamacare not existed, he'd either have to try to tough it out until he qualified for Medicare at 65 or pay $500 a month for COBRA coverage.


Instead, he's paying $50 a month for a policy. And, as he sees it, the $450 that he would have sent to an insurance company is going to buy groceries, fix his car and take a vacation with his girlfriend.

Craig Mason, 59, said he has felt tied to his job as an engineer at a large defense contractor because he and his wife needed health insurance. A diabetic, he couldn't get affordable coverage on the individual market.

Now, however, he's thinking of leaving his employer in a few years to focus more on his side job, repairing and building guitars and other string instruments. He also wants to spend more time with his three grandchildren.

"I want to try something different," said Mason, a Germantown, Md., resident. "I don't want to be tied to a large corporation. The Affordable Care Act may be just the vehicle to bridge the gap until I'm eligible for Medicare."







CNSNews.com) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says despite all the "good news" about Obamacare, "there's plenty of horror stories being told, all of them untrue -- but they're being told all over America."

In a speech on the Senate floor Wednesday, Reid complained that Republicans, with help from wealthy donors -- he named the Koch brothers -- are telling "tall tales" and "outright lies" about Obamacare in stump speeches and political advertisements.

"Republicans may need tall tales and outright lies to convince people that Obamacare's bad for them -- but Democrats -- we don't have to make things up," Reid said."




Harry Reid Accuses Republicans of Telling 'Outright Lies' About Obamacare | CNS News
Essentially we are subsidizing his vacations.

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Anyone who prefers to be without healthcare is just a mooch, because no one is exempt from ever getting sick, so I would suspect that people that are signing up realize they need healthcare insurance, and they want it.
Braindead argument.

People pay for healthcare out of pocket all the time.

For low risk folks, it is actually quite cost effective.

And yes....they can actually cover most of the big ones too....and come out ahead.

To bad we have to charge 65 year old men maternity insurance to make sure everyone gets "what they deserve".

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The research continues to mount and it is catastrophic....

  • For young adults, premiums will increase 171% in Arkansas, 168% in Georgia, and 156% in Arizona

  • An adult age 50 faces an 81% increase in Indiana, 75% in Florida, 74% in Connecticut, and 72% in Kansas.

  • For a family of four, premiums will rise by 31% in North Dakota and 29% in Texas
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She's waiting for a brain transplant.
Actually, she's waiting on her next government check. She's scared to death that the American people are on the verge of waking up and taking away her gravy train. She's bilked her fellow citizens out of a lifetime of money, food, housing, healthcare, and a whole lot more.

It's just a shame that she feels lying is an acceptable way to go about her scam. It's a shame she's not willing to have an honest conversation about America. But again, she knows what will happen if she does.

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  • For young adults, premiums will increase 171% in Arkansas, 168% in Georgia, and 156% in Arizona

  • An adult age 50 faces an 81% increase in Indiana, 75% in Florida, 74% in Connecticut, and 72% in Kansas.

  • For a family of four, premiums will rise by 31% in North Dakota and 29% in Texas
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It was a lie, and that is why the government is poised to take over the industry as soon as Obamacare fails. Get ready for it, because it will be the only thing left is a takeover, and they know it.
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What does this have to do with healthcare ?
She's waiting for a brain transplant.
Actually, she's waiting on her next government check. She's scared to death that the American people are on the verge of waking up and taking away her gravy train. She's bilked her fellow citizens out of a lifetime of money, food, housing, healthcare, and a whole lot more.

It's just a shame that she feels lying is an acceptable way to go about her scam. It's a shame she's not willing to have an honest conversation about America. But again, she knows what will happen if she does.
Mertex is right behind her....

She's here defending Obamacrapcare...saying how good it is when......

Expected: WH to Extend Obamacare 'Fix' to Help Panicked Democrats Survive 2014

Expected: WH to Extend Obamacare 'Fix' to Help Panicked Democrats Survive 2014 - Guy Benson

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The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats. As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements. Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall. The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day. The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber...Allowing insurers to continue offering noncompliant health plans for several years would substantially alter the health insurance landscape under ObamaCare. It would also undercut one rationale for the healthcare reform law. Under the Affordable Care Act, health plans are required to offer 10 medical benefits that the Obama administration deems essential.

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How can our affirmative action failure of a president be more blatant ?

If this is so great, why would they do this (if they do this..the reporting is not from Townhall).
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The Dumbocrat LIE that Obamacare would lower costs is unraveling....

Employees shouldering more of health costs, report finds

Employee health care premiums have risen an average of 19% since 2011, and workers are paying 28% more for health benefits compared with three years ago, finds a report by Towers Watson/National Business Group on Health. Employers are paying an average premium of $9,560 per worker in 2014, up from $8,364 in 2011.

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Two Quotes That Show the Absurdity of Obamacare

President Obama wants you to know that he gets it.

You just don’t understand how much better Obamacare is going to make your life; you’re afraid of change. It’s okay, he wants you to know; he understands.

“There are some people who have very bad insurance, but they don’t know it because they don’t understand the fine print,” Obama said yesterday.

Wasn’t that thoughtful? You don’t know what you’re talking about, because you don’t understand what’s good for you. But the Obama Administration will try to make you feel better for another year…oh, and hopefully those of you who still have your old insurance won’t get cancellation notices right before the midterm election.

Yesterday, an official with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) was asked: How many uninsured Americans are signing up for Obamacare?

“That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way,” CMS’s Gary Cohen said.

That’s right. One of the big selling points for President Obama was that Obamacare would insure the uninsured. And now the Administration doesn’t even know whether the people signing up had insurance to begin with.

Latest Obamacare Delay, Insurance Cancellations, and Uninsured Signups
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Politics aside, “Affordable health care “ is a misnomer, isn't it? besides a veiled attempt to force socialism on a free democratic society. Let's call Obamacare what it REALLY is: forced insurance on everyone. But, perhaps that is a good thing. I hope our well intended know- it -all federal government isn’t playing craps with our future here. I hope I didn't lose my job as a result of the ill informed politics of millennials good intentions.
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Employees shouldering more of health costs, report finds

Employee health care premiums have risen an average of 19% since 2011, and workers are paying 28% more for health benefits compared with three years ago, finds a report by Towers Watson/National Business Group on Health. Employers are paying an average premium of $9,560 per worker in 2014, up from $8,364 in 2011.

Your workplace health insurance costs $1,200 more - Economy
I wonder though, would this have happened (the higher and higher rates) regardless of Obamacare or did it happen because of Obamacare ? Does anyone TRULY no the answer to this ?
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When liberals get cornered on an issue or can no longer defend it--they will talk in platitudes--meaning basically saying nothing of substance.--Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see images. It's best just to ignore them when they do that.

But back to O-care. Our health care dictator and chief--single--handily--again usurped his constitutional authority for the 39th time on Obamacare alone.

He now has made another change--after a change he made a few months ago. "That is IF the state insurance commissions will allow it." A few months ago he stated that people in the individual market-place that have had their "liked" polices cancelled--would be granted a pardon for one year--if their stated allowed it. Now Obama has extended that all the way into 2017 (if the state insurance commissioners approve it)- Of course this 2017 new deadline is-long after he is no longer the President--lol. California said no way to the 1st extension--so I imagine with this new extension that states are not going to change their policies again to suit what appears to be an hysterical drama queen sitting in the oval office--that can't make up his mind.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101469265

Furthermore--with the individual market place still intact--how in the heck does Obama pay for all the new Medicade enrollees and all of the people that are getting their insurance subsidized? Everyone knows that he had to collapse the individual marketplace so that those people would move into the exchanges--and HELP pay for all the medicade and subsides. Now that's not happening until 2017--and the fire sale within medicade enrollees and subsidizes continues to grow. As we know insurers on the Obamacare exchange will not be adjusting their premiums until this coming November--and as we know, the fewer the enrollees into these exchanges--the higher the premiums go.

With all these changes--it's clear Obamacare is not WORKING--and right now this administration is just kicking the ball to the next administration. When in reality--it's so bad--that democrats would win an award if they just stood up and admitted this thing needs to be repealed so they can start all over again. But they won't do that.

So I assume all of these changes are just a futile attempt at saving democrats who are headed into the mid-term elections this November from looking like the 7th Calvary lead by Colonel Custer.

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