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Many Doctors Will Not Participate in Obamacare

this is going to limit Obamacare patients....

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New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Docs worried sick over ObamaCare | New York Post
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Many didn't participate in Medicare too.
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These doctors are more concerned with bimbos, 12 cylinder luxury cars and a mansion to live.
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These doctors are more concerned with bimbos, 12 cylinder luxury cars and a mansion to live.
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Many didn't participate in Medicare too.
and many more are dropping Medicare patients as time goes by.....just like Obamacare they just cannot afford the small payments they get for their services....doctoring is a business you know...

lots of doctors are simply retiring early......and many smart young people are avoiding the field....
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Many didn't participate in Medicare too.
and many more are dropping Medicare patients as time goes by.....they just cannot afford the small payments they get for their services....doctoring is a business you know...

lots of doctors are simply retiring early......and many smart young people are avoiding the field....
I had a Doctor appointment yesterday. My guy has been our family physician for the last 25 years - we are pretty good friends. He comes out to my place and hunts and fishes all the time. Our families have spent many great times in the mountains.

He's not accepting new patients any longer . He no longer accepts new medicare patients and he won't participate in OBarryCare.

His opinion of this nonsense? It will destroy medicine - just as it did in Europe and Canada. Research will dry up and technology will head elsewhere. He's not bitter, like me. He merely faces the facts of the situation and accepts it as another nail in the coffin of America.

That's the beauty of being old. We just don't care any longer. America and it's "youth" have made their collective "beds". Live with it.
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this is going to limit Obamacare patients....

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New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Docs worried sick over ObamaCare | New York Post
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You all might as well stop lying about Obamacare. It's here to stay.
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this is going to limit Obamacare patients....

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New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Docs worried sick over ObamaCare | New York Post
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You all might as well stop lying about Obamacare. It's here to stay.

Since Obamacare is here to stay, maybe Obama and liberals could stop lying about it....... Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see images.
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in the future Obamacare/Medicaid patients will probably get alot of their care from nurse practitioners rather than real doctors...
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this is going to limit Obamacare patients....

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New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Docs worried sick over ObamaCare | New York Post
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You all might as well stop lying about Obamacare. It's here to stay.
you do realize that a two-tier healthcare system is developing as a result of this marxist-inspired trainwreck....?
your socialist leaders have already protected their cadillac plans...

i wish you luck with your Obammycare...
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this is going to limit Obamacare patients....

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New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Docs worried sick over ObamaCare | New York Post
The New York Post?

Are you kidding? Lefties can't use the New York Times, which, by the way, employed Nixon's ultra conservative speech writer on its Op-Ed Page for a quarter century. The Post is pure yellow journalism.

But I'm going to do something righties never do when someone uses an obviously tainted information source - I'm going to respond to the content, namely that doctors are going to lose some pricing leverage.

It's true - all insurance plans place limits on Doctor's pricing power. My brother-in-law is a doctor and he's always *****ing about which insurance plans pay the least. ObamaCare will be no different. Doctors hate when consumers have leverage. This is why they make deals with drug companies to over-prescribe expensive drugs . . . so they can make more money in other areas. The incentive structure is Milton's Firedman's and it goes like this: everybody is acting as selfishly as possible and thereby doing everything and anything to **** everybody out of as much money as possible. But let's simplify it: of course doctors are going to hate it when the consumer gets a little bit of the pricing leverage back.

I don't think you have to worry though. The capitalist will win this one. ObamaCare will be open to lobbying, and the private sector will use intensive financial pressure to slither its way into the plan's heart where it will pack it with expensive, unnecessary procedures.

Research the Bush era Republican Masterpiece - Medicare Part D, passed by and for Republican special interests and imposed on the tax payer. Elly Lilly - one of the biggest contributors to the GOP - was awarded a no-bid contract to service Medicare patients with pharmaceuticals. Here is the kicker: for Bush Medicare Part D the government was/is forbidden to negotiate for volume discounts. This locks the taxpayer into above market drug costs (because every other market player can negotiate based on being able to deliver higher volume). This is why the private sector secretly LOVES entitlements, because it gives them access to the taxpayer's wallet without having to be disciplined by the market. The dirty little secret of capitalism is that government is now a holding of the Lobbying Industrial Complex. Washington is where capitalism goes to get regulatory favors, no-bid contracts, fixed pricing and monopolies over citizens.

Son, you seem like a good kid who likes to post a lot of Republican Propaganda. You might want to study what actually happens under ObamaCare, rather than listening to a few rightwing hacks in the New York Post. You might discover that the problem doesn't fit into your spoon-fed narrative about how the private sector is getting ****ed. You might discover something far more complex, one where the private sector has captured Washington and has colluded with our politicians to put a stern ****ing on the consumer. Either way, you're probably not going to get the whole picture from a tabloid.

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Once again we see adults using terms like "Marxist" and have not a clue to its meaning.
Hey, whats up Mr. Mainstream? How you been, not still all butthurt that your party is falling apart due to not being able to win elections off progressive platforms are you?
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