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Aetna, Cigna, United Health and Teacher Union Gets Obamacare Waiver

Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty

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Well if anyone has any doubts as to how bad ObamaCare is. Look no further.
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
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Yea, all that bullshit talk from libs..."Its the law of the land now, get behind it".

So if its the "law of the land" why are there so many waivers for a select group of people?

If its a just law, it should be applied to everyone, no exceptions.
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse. If you read the comments, the list comes from this website:

http://cciio.cms.gov/
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
Bullshit. HHS finalizes over 1,200 waivers under healthcare reform law - The Hill's Healthwatch
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse.
Well, I actually know exactly what the word "waiver" means in this context. I get the feeling that you guys don't, though.

The "waivers" that were given didn't "exempt" those companies from "Obamacare". It gave them an additional 3 years to extend their benefit caps, rather than the staggered caps outlined by the law. Those "waivers" change only a minor aspect of Obamacare (the new prohibition on lifetime spending caps), and will be entirely irrelevant on Jan 1st, when lifetime caps become illegal for all companies.
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse. If you read the comments, the list comes from this website:

Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

Thanks Templar. I was just about to post that. How pathetic the Dems flat out lie to cover up this disaster. Typical.
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse. If you read the comments, the list comes from this website:

Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
That link doesn't go to any list.
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Yep,

You heard me right. Aetna, Cigna, and United Healthcare get Obamacare waivers. In fact, virtually every major health insurance corporation gets an Obamacare waiver.

Now maybe my Democrat friends can help me to understand this. If Obamacare is so great, how come virtually every major health plan that is administering Obamacare gets to opt out of it? We the people don't get to opt out. What gives?

I know you'll also be shocked, but the United Federation of Teachers gets a waiver. Hundreds of Unions get a waiver. The Congress and their staffers get a waiver. But we the people do not. Please, can any liberals explain this to me?

Aren't the Democrats supposed to be for the little guy? The employer mandate gets waived for a year, but the individual mandate affecting we the people does not. How come?

Liberals...you wanted this shit. I think you're gonna have to defend it. Please go right ahead...we're all waiting for a logical explanation.




Here's a complete list of everyone who got a waiver. Funny, I don't see any tea party groups on the list. Wonder why? 729 other entities get waivers. I guess it's like the IRS thing. Probably a couple rogue HHS employees in Omaha or something.



List of 729 Companies and Unions with Obamacare Exemptions | Peace . Gold . Liberty
The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
Bullshit. HHS finalizes over 1,200 waivers under healthcare reform law - The Hill's Healthwatch
You should read your own link. It might help you understand what the "waivers" actually entail.
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What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse.
Well, I actually know exactly what the word "waiver" means in this context. I get the feeling that you guys don't, though.

The "waivers" that were given didn't "exempt" those companies from "Obamacare". It gave them an additional 3 years to extend their benefit caps, rather than the staggered caps outlined by the law. Those "waivers" change only a minor aspect of Obamacare (the new prohibition on lifetime spending caps), and will be entirely irrelevant on Jan 1st, when lifetime caps become illegal for all companies.

More lying bullshit. Maybe you need to learn to read period. The Six Types of Obamacare Waivers | Heartland Institute
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All told, 1,231 companies applied for and received waivers from the law’s restrictions on annual benefit caps. The law requires plans to gradually raise their benefit limits, and all annual limits will become illegal in 2014. Companies that received waivers can keep their caps intact until 2014.
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The "source" for the list of companies is apparently an anonymous post on the Free Republic message boards.

Why don't you explain these "waivers" for us?
What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse. If you read the comments, the list comes from this website:

Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
That link doesn't go to any list.
That is what the search bar is for. Please, don't make me lead you by the hand.
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What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse.
Well, I actually know exactly what the word "waiver" means in this context. I get the feeling that you guys don't, though.

The "waivers" that were given didn't "exempt" those companies from "Obamacare". It gave them an additional 3 years to extend their benefit caps, rather than the staggered caps outlined by the law. Those "waivers" change only a minor aspect of Obamacare (the new prohibition on lifetime spending caps), and will be entirely irrelevant on Jan 1st, when lifetime caps become illegal for all companies.

More lying bullshit. The Six Types of Obamacare Waivers | Heartland Institute
Again, you need to read your own damn links. Your link says exactly what I just said.
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What do you think the word waivers mean, Doc? I invite you not to be obtuse. If you read the comments, the list comes from this website:

Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
That link doesn't go to any list.
That is what the search bar is for. Please, don't make me lead you by the hand.
No. If you're making a claim, it's your job to back it up, not my job to make your point for you.

It's pretty easy for an anonymous poster on Free Republic to claim that he got his list from a government site.
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