Deem and Pass No Go

Just happening:

'Deem and pass' out, overhaul to get direct vote - Health care reform- msnbc.com

WASHINGTON - With a showdown vote on health care legislation set for Sunday in the House, Democrats have dropped a controversial plan to indirectly approve the bill, choosing instead to hold a direct vote on the Senate’s version of the overhaul.

The Washington Post and POLITCO reported the news on Saturday afternoon, less than an hour before President Barack Obama was scheduled to meet with the House Democratic caucus.

The “deem and pass” procedure would have allowed House Democrats to avoid an up-or-down vote on the Senate bill, which many members dislike because of the bill’s carve-out provisions for individual states.

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Funny How Fallin Feels Like Flyin, For a Little While
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This means they likely have the votes.

God help this country.

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Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does.

One small victory for the constitution. But one must wonder what Obama and Pelosi have planned for us now.

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"If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail."
- Ulysses S. Grant

They do. They're in recess now to meet with Obama.

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Funny How Fallin Feels Like Flyin, For a Little While
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Well, well, well


Now you really will have no defense when all your predictions fo doom and gloom dont materialize.

Will you be happy if this bill works out great for the American people?

Will you admitt you were wrong?

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"The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment." -Bertrand Russell

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wish they had been at recess all along, we'd be better off.

So the House will pass the Senate Bill as is, then pass their adjustments. which will have to go to the Senate as a new Bill? What a bitch if it fails in the Senate.......

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"If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail."
- Ulysses S. Grant

Democratic victory you mean? They have votes. Pelosi victory.

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Funny How Fallin Feels Like Flyin, For a Little While
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Or..... they've been told it's unconstitutional and figure they can't get away with it - what with the eyes of the nation upon them. Happily, they'll have to go on the record with their votes.... and vast numbers will kiss goodbye to their jobs in November.

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For Bootneck:Fan go sábháilte, mo chara

"America is not fighting a war. The US Armed Forces are fighting a war. America is at the mall."

how many years will you insist it is not working after it passes even though all the evidence will deny your claims?


Will you ever admitt you are wrong about this when the evidence pours in?

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"The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment." -Bertrand Russell

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If it works and helps.. Which it wont..

Then you can throw yourself a party.

But to tell you the truth, you sound way too optimistic, and sorta blind..

Also.. *Admit.* 1 T. not 2.

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good and bad

good they stopped their cowardly and possibly unconstitutional voting, bad, because they most likely know they have enough votes

Who says?

Pelosi has failed to get the pro-lifers (so far).....and so Demon Pass would fail anyway....

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"You can take from A and give to B if B pays more taxes?"
~Justice Antonin Scalia on Kelo v. New London

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: The stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission – which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." ~Ayn Rand

“Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism”~Lenin

We will all know tomarrow wont we.

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"The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment." -Bertrand Russell

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Why is it that 4 Doctors have told me they will most likely retire before they planned to if this passes? I'm certain they understand this Bill more than any of us. And they will quit. I trust you have a Doctor who will see you. Because they are going to be harder to find. And you will see that almost immediately.

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"If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail."
- Ulysses S. Grant