Mental illness

The causes of mental illness are multi-factored with both genetic and environmental elements. Due to social inefficiency some individuals appear to fall down the social scale and classically are over–represented among the homeless and other socially excluded groups. There is much research about causation but little is as definitive as in other fields of medical practice.

We still struggle to understand why some people suffer while others do not. Most research has been driven by observation of empirical improvements in patients after casual treatment which was administered for another reason. Drug research is aimed at identifying treatments using similar molecules to achieve better results. Research has also demonstrated that for many patients institutional care has been negative and so today the tendency is to maintain patients in the community rather than hospital.

Patients with mental illnesses are well looked after with modern treatments and knowledgeable staff. There are currently problems in dealing with acute crises and, in particular, ensuring rapid assessment with possible hospital diversion. It is felt that many patients are admitted for conditions which could have been treated with enhanced community services.

Overall, there has been emphasis on developing community services and the trained staff resources have been drawn from in-patient services.

In the short–term this transfer of personnel has resulted in a mismatch between supply and demand. It is felt that better early intervention could maintain greater numbers within the community but to be successful community services would require more options.

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Excellent article

depression, bipolar, schizophrenia and many other mental illness affect millions of americans but the culture of shame and silence still dominate

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You will shortly discover our own Board idiots in regards Mental illness. EOTS is the biggest turd here but there are others. If EOTS had his way no one would ever be treated with medication. And as you read his delusional conspiracy threads you will come to realize he is a perfect candidate for meds himself.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Again I ask, quoting this because it encases both of the extremes, why the fuck can't we have a middle ground?

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What? How exactly do I represent an extreme? Be specific.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

no if EOTS had his way people would be fully informed of all their alternatives and given so called medications only with full informed consent..and the wholesale drugging of our children would cease...and if you inform your self of the facts surrounding 9/11 you will soon realize the official story does not add up and realise this view is shared by many exceptional..and intelligent patriots

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

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Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

The medical industry is interested in over medicating people, do you agree with this or not?

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the total denial that mental illness can be treated with anything other than toxic brain damaging neuroleptic drugs ?

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

Wrong way to go, provide facts and quotes of me presenting extreme views. You made the claim back it up. My position on mental issues and medication are quite clearly stated in the numerous threads I have talked about it in.

You chose to attack me now back the shit up.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Now provide evidence I ever said any such thing.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

how about ..if this is not the Case you clarify position as I did..or is that too complicated for you

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

Why should I justify your open lies with anything but scorn. You made a claim PROVE it or admit you are a bald faced lying weasel.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

how about I admit your a dickhead weasel..that has not got the balls to clearly state his position instead ?

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

I already stated my position to you numerous times. You have chosen to lie about it. Provide the evidence I EVER said what you claim.

Pretty damn clear now isn't it?

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

No, I am offering you an opportunity to prove me wrong. You however have not, instead you just avoided the statement ans question completely. If you had answered it then I would have been able to see your stance clearer, however since you avoided it I will continue to hold my opinion of your stance as the same.

Medical practitioners have a lot invested in pushing their drugs as much as they can, even when they are unneeded, this is simple fact. The sad effect is that most of the people in the US are blind to what these drugs do, most have side effects that greatly outweigh the benefit, which is usually very small. Then there are antidepressant ... which have the common side effect of suicidal tendencies, which completely negates the benefit. Not to mention the fact that all medications cause liver damage, and too much liver damage means you will need the medical facilities even more and for the rest of your life, costing outrageous amounts. Yes, they want you on meds for everything, even though there are alternatives to hard drugs for most problems. A few mental problems, medication is the only way to let the person function, but most which are addressed (depression, emotional disorders, etc.) are symptoms, not causes, and the actual causes tend to be repressed emotions or experiences. Medications dull the memory and repress these causes instead of healing them, thus those who are on the meds are never healed, never whole, and NEVER healthy.

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